By philip gelber (BonaireTalker - Post #53) on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 5:14 pm: |
It's very depressing. The first reported lionfish sighting on Bonaire was 10/26/2009. As of now, the lionfish markers are all gone on Bonaire....DMs are routinely removing many on each dive. Today at BelMar, 7 fish were removed by one DM in one dive.
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By KOB (LBR32) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #359) on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 6:21 pm: |
The DM's alone will never be able to keep up. BNMP needs to enlist the help of visiting divers, train them, provide some lionfish killing spears/tools and turn us loose. There are many more visiting divers who could and, IMHO, would help if allowed.
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By Pretu Morto Pa E Leon Piska (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #196) on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 6:57 pm: |
Lionfish derbys and open hunting by all is the only real answer.
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By Lloyd H (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #623) on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 8:30 pm: |
Commercial harvesting for food would be a win win situation .
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By Jerry C Ligon (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #163) on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 6:41 pm: |
Lionfish markers are NOT all gone. We are still marking sightings. If there were to be a change in plans, we volunteers would have been the first to be asked to remove markers, and we have not. Guests are telling me that they are finding markers and, on some, lionfish are still visible. "As of now, the lionfish markers are all gone on Bonaire." A statement without any validity by someone with perhaps a small sample of the dive sites.
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By philip gelber (BonaireTalker - Post #54) on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 7:32 pm: |
I'm sorry. We were told by the DM whose initials are CW at BelMar that all the markers were gone, having been used. I have no independent knowledge other than from that source.
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By Bonaire Tiki Girl aka Cindi (BonaireTalker - Post #72) on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 8:08 pm: |
There is a shortage of markers because right now there is no plastic ribbon (used to make markers) on the island, though plenty of corks. So anyone who would like to bring some ribbon for STINAPA, here is what is used: Irwin Strait-Line product #65905 1-3/16” x 300’ color: Yellow, White or Glo Lime. http://www.irwin.com/tools/marking-layout/flagging-tapes
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By Mark (BonaireTalker - Post #27) on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 8:53 pm: |
I should be on Bonaire in three weeks and I can bring some tape. Where or who would I give it to?
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By Bonaire Tiki Girl aka Cindi (BonaireTalker - Post #73) on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 9:19 pm: |
Thank you Mark.
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #839) on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 10:48 pm: |
Cindi, does it have to be exactly that Irwin tape? The Irwin site shows that Home Depot and Lowes are distributors, but when you go to those sites you don't find exactly the tape you linked to....so if the tape were 1 inch wide instead of 1 3/16, or slightly thicker or thinner PVC, would it still be acceptable?
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By Jerry C Ligon (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #164) on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 6:01 am: |
I have been purchasing tape on my own from Boomerang Hardware, for the past 3 months. Only problem is they have only a dull orange color and it is difficult to see on the reef (which might have its advantages if guests are complaining about all the plastic), but I prefer the yellow or lime. Too bad we can't date and time stamp the ribbons when we mark a lionfish. Algae seems to do a pretty good job, however. It begins to grow on the ribbons in about 2 or 3 days. I have been removing quite a few, after a diligent search and no lionfish was found.
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By Bonaire Tiki Girl aka Cindi (BonaireTalker - Post #74) on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 9:36 am: |
Mel - An equivalent would be fine. Irwin happens to be what STINAPA buys by the case when available.
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By Jeff Kehnle (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #148) on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 9:39 am: |
Please help me understand the issues with lion fish and grouper.
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #840) on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 11:17 am: |
There are few large grouper in Bonaire, because they are caught and eaten, some legally (locals using legal methods) and some illegally. The grouper are needed as part of the ecosystem.
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By brenda (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1183) on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 11:35 am: |
Cindi we are arriving Sat Jan 1. I'll pick up some tape.
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By brenda (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1184) on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 11:42 am: |
Oooops, brain already on holiday....we arrive Sun, Jan 2! We leave here Sat.
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By Burt F. Witlin (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #10) on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 2:41 pm: |
I'm coming on Jan 10th. Will try to bring tape also.
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By Bonnie C (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #117) on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 4:37 pm: |
Just found this. It sounds like a positive step: Reef Environmental Education Foundation (REEF) announces the release of "The Lionfish Cookbook." This collection of 45 delicious recipes is designed to encourage the harvest and consumption of invasive lionfish in the Atlantic Ocean. Lionfish have a delicate, mild-flavored, white meat and is considered a delicacy.
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By Fid Chinoy (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #264) on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 5:15 pm: |
We spotted 3 lionfish at the fishing village on the road past Bopec.
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By Paul Driscoll (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #2) on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 5:48 pm: |
My wife and I are PADI Divemasters. We will be returning in March. Will STINAPA allow us to hunt the lionfish or are they only allowing local DM's to hunt them? We were there in early November and saw Lionfish on just about every dive. We were also there last March and saw none!That's quite a difference in just six months!
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By Fiona Rattray (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #439) on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 6:26 pm: |
Has anyone been to the East Side to see what the LF population is like there?
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By Jeff Kehnle (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #153) on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 11:09 pm: |
Thanks, Mel, for the information...
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By Bonaire Tiki Girl aka Cindi (BonaireTalker - Post #75) on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 12:42 am: |
Thank you all for bringing tape with you.
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By Bart Snelder (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #108) on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 3:10 pm: |
After a final sweep yesterday, the unofficial dive site known as Eden's Rubble is declared lion fish free within all of the BNMP boundaries, short of anything smaller than an inch. As a result of regular inspection, Edens' Rubble will stay free of LF!
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By Fid Chinoy (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #266) on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 5:06 pm: |
The road to Playa Frans was surprisingly in very good shape.
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By Bonaire Tiki Girl aka Cindi (BonaireTalker - Post #76) on Saturday, January 1, 2011 - 9:40 am: |
Fid - Thanks for info.
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By Fid Chinoy (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #267) on Saturday, January 1, 2011 - 6:18 pm: |
There were at least 10 lionfish varying in size in a group between 45 and 55 metres at Tolo. If you enter from the south end of the parking area they are directly in front on the reef (west).
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By Mickey McCarthy (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #895) on Sunday, January 2, 2011 - 12:44 pm: |
Fid
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #841) on Sunday, January 2, 2011 - 1:26 pm: |
Fid, 45 to 55m? Are you sure you weren't just narced? :-)
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By Walt III - www.RecTekScuba.com (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #488) on Sunday, January 2, 2011 - 3:41 pm: |
I have shot some as deep as 260 ft - 80 meters deep. Many in the 190 -58 meter +/- range.
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By Mickey McCarthy (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #896) on Sunday, January 2, 2011 - 4:19 pm: |
HaHa
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By Fid Chinoy (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #268) on Monday, January 3, 2011 - 7:34 pm: |
I was narced and could have sworn they were 55m long. I think they were speaking to me in Papiamentu......... or maybe it was english with a heavy southern US twang.....
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By Marcus L. Barnes (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1207) on Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - 5:22 pm: |
I wonder if a big ole Tarpon will chow on a Lion Fish spotted with a dive light on a night dive?
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By Jerry C Ligon (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #166) on Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - 5:45 pm: |
Marcus: I would not be surprised and I'll bet that someone will soon report a documentation. I watched a Tarpon, on a Bari night dive come in on a Blue Tang, whamped him, then, immediately spit it out and the Tarpon took off, and we did not see the Tarpon the rest of the night.
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By Eric M. "CamMan" (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1504) on Wednesday, January 5, 2011 - 9:26 am: |
Jerry, you've seen the morays eat lionfish on Bonaire or some other location? Just curious.
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By Jerry C Ligon (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #167) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 7:39 am: |
Eric: Yep. Didn't expect to ever document a spotted moray eating a healthy lionfish, but it happened with 3 of us watching on Bari reef. We applauded. Several have seen a wounded lionfish, that has escaped the tips of the spears, get gobbled up by a moray, mainly because the wounded lionfish is in panicked mode, like a fisherman's bait-fish impaled on a hook, which sends out signals to predatory fish that it is in a panicked mode and not acting like a normal, healthy fish.
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By Bas Tol - www.vipdiving.com (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #416) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 12:38 pm: |
Noticed the same, Jerry. Also after a miss many times the fish will dart away just a few feet and then sit there like he's inviting you to try again. If you're really quick getting a shot off you have a chance. Mostly as soon as you aim he's gone into a hole. Also funny when there a couple together. The other one is watching his buddy get shot and then get finished with a knife...meanwhile the other one(s) just sitting there waiting to be next.
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3384) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 12:59 pm: |
Old fashioned ingenuity. Love it!
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By Bas Tol - www.vipdiving.com (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #417) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 1:39 pm: |
Some dives I do often so if I spot them I remember where they are and get them the next time I'm there. I tie the bottles on a string.. 3,4,5 of them. Almost completly filled with water so they just float. Hands free if you hook the string to BCD. Cut off a bottle when I see the fish and cut bottle in two right there. They're easier to carry intact. Usually leave the bottles with fish standing in the sand. Put some sand in it to weigh it down. And collect all bottles at end of dive.
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By Yana girl (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #803) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 1:46 pm: |
Bas T, IMO....you are the "Master Lion Tamer"
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By Bas Tol - www.vipdiving.com (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #418) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 1:58 pm: |
here's the link
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By Freddie................someoneisawizeass (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #15431) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 2:05 pm: |
Bas your link doesn't work
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By Bas Tol - www.vipdiving.com (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #419) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 2:31 pm: |
try this one then
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By Eric M. "CamMan" (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1507) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 2:49 pm: |
That is really amazing Jerry, about the Morays. Do you think then that there is hope in training the Morays to eat the lionfish on a regular basis?
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By KOB (LBR32) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #373) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 4:17 pm: |
Bas -- is it safe to assume that, because we're not using a spear, speargun or other weapon, it is allowed by BNMP for visiting divers to take lionfish in the same way that you are doing ??
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By Bas Tol - www.vipdiving.com (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #421) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 4:31 pm: |
Theoretically not. I assume the rule 'not allowed to remove anything from the marine park dead or alive' is still in effect. The exceptions are with the ones who have an ELF contract with BMP. Personally I don't think you would get in trouble if you come out of the water with bottled LF and encounter one of the rangers.
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3385) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 7:29 pm: |
Thanks for posting Bas. Very interesting!
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By Morto Pa E Leon Piska (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #197) on Thursday, January 6, 2011 - 9:30 pm: |
So, the bottle method is approved for all or is permission from BNMP needed?
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By Jerry C Ligon (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #168) on Friday, January 7, 2011 - 6:37 am: |
Eric "CamMan": Lionfish are magnitudes worse than natural predators on what they consume, mainly because of the word NATURAL. Prey animals and their predators have evolved over millions of years of interacting, under natural conditions, to the point that a balance is maintained where the efficient predator never consumes all the prey, because the prey is also adjusting its behavior, over eons of time, to escape the predator.
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By Eric author of "Why is the Grass Green?" (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1517) on Friday, January 7, 2011 - 12:25 pm: |
Thanks again for the education. I'm not one to espouse the 'millions of years' theories but the general logic behind your point of view still explains things within the confines of my world view.
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By Mark (BonaireTalker - Post #34) on Friday, January 7, 2011 - 8:00 pm: |
Couldn't find the exact Irwin tape but I found some 1" Go-Lime at Home Depot. Bought three reels which I'll bring in the next six days!
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By Bonaire Tiki Girl aka Cindi (BonaireTalker - Post #77) on Friday, January 7, 2011 - 9:50 pm: |
Mark,
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By Morto Pa E Leon Piska (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #198) on Saturday, January 8, 2011 - 11:51 am: |
You know how I killed em.
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By Lloyd H (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #628) on Saturday, January 8, 2011 - 4:47 pm: |
I anxiously await videos and photos if you got em ... well done !!!
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By brenda (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1200) on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 8:36 am: |
Tiki, took 3 rolls to Michael last week, he called and had them picked up......good luck.
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By Bas Tol - www.vipdiving.com (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #422) on Monday, January 17, 2011 - 12:32 pm: |
Just bot back from a dive between White Slave and Margate Bay. Caught 25 out of the 28 Lion Fish we saw. That's roughly 20% of the total number I caught sofar... in one dive!! 65 min dive between 55 and 80ft. Average one every 2.5 minutes. We were pretty busy. Last one was a keeper. Enjoy it, Wally! Thanks for being a great buddy.
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By Glen Reem (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3274) on Monday, January 17, 2011 - 1:47 pm: |
Interesting to see the number of Lionfish continuing to increase in spite of the 'catching' effort.
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By Menno (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #380) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 6:34 am: |
Hhmmmm... and me thinking I am kind of a good hunter with my 26 kills in total sofar.....
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By Bart Snelder (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #109) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 8:00 am: |
Dear all, after consultation with Ramon the BNMP manager: The use of tags is officially discouraged by the BNMP. Please refrain from tagging any more lionfish.
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By Jerry C Ligon (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #169) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 8:31 am: |
Soooo, Bart. Where did this subject matter come from "Tagging Lionfish". I do not follow why you blogged this.
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By Bart Snelder (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #110) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 9:10 am: |
Simply put: many tags have been found washed up on the beach on Klein, some sites look like discotheques with five colors of tape, mary poppins would have no problem flying up just tying markers of a single divesite to her underwater flying contraption. Countless markers have been tied to live marine flora and fauna! There are 30.000 divers annually. Let's assume they all attach five tags per visit. 150.000 tags? All will touch the reef. It is an environmental hazard, basically adding insult to injury. Period. No mas! The reason why I posted it here, Jerry, is because there is an active call on this site, as well as on other sites, to bring MORE tagging tape. Please do not! Tagging shooting tying etc. reverses a half century of preservation policy, no matter how well intended. Please spread the word............
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By Jerry C Ligon (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #170) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 9:43 am: |
Bart. I respect everyone's concern about all the colored markers that are placed on the reef whenever a lionfish is spotted. However, informed divers visiting here would understand what is at stake if we allow Lionfish to pursue their biological imperative- eat and reproduce. Any slack in trying to keep lionfish under some kind of control will only deepen the problem, and not lessen it. I must disagree on the new rule, "Don't mark any more lionfish with tape." It is only my opinion, but what is better? Those 30,000 divers each leaving 5 markers on Bonaire's reefs, or the problem caused by 150,000 lionfish? Are we now declaring that it is hopeless, that we have lost, and we should just give up, and let the lionfish have their way?
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By KOB (LBR32) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #403) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 9:46 am: |
I would guess that if the dive shops stop handing out the markers to the visiting divers, that will pretty much put an end to more markers on the reef. Is that what STINAPA is proposing (or maybe has already requested of the dive shops)?
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By Jerry C Ligon (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #171) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 9:57 am: |
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By Bonaire Tiki Girl aka Cindi (BonaireTalker - Post #78) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 9:58 am: |
We have removed over 250 lionfish from the reef. A significant number of those are a result of lionfish sightings that are marked and reported. In addition, highly successful removal dives with 20 plus lionfish removed have occurred on dive locations that were targeted because of reports of lionfish at specific locations. We also see, investigate, catch and remove lionfish (and the markers!) during dives, during which our profile would not otherwise intersect the marked lionfish. So the marks have provided added direction to known lionfish locations we would not have seen, thus increasing the success of the lionfish removal process. We understand the concern that Bart has over the “littering” and potential damage to the reef by lionfish markers. However, we strongly encourage the continued reporting of lionfish sightings with greater detail of location, especially large numbers of lionfish in groups, for future catch by the removal team divers.
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By Jerry C Ligon (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #172) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 10:15 am: |
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By Jerry C Ligon (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #173) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 10:57 am: |
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By Bart Snelder (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #111) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 12:15 pm: |
What I would hate to see is finding a turtle or any other marine creature with a tag in its stomach. Tagging is deliberately throwing plastics in the sea, no matter how you slice it, and mistakes will be and are already made aplenty. If lion fish cannot be found without tagging there aren't that many, are there? And if you see them, shoot them!
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #850) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 1:29 pm: |
Bart, the volunteers are tagging lionfish because that is all they are allowed to do. They are perfectly willing to be trained, and to catch/kill the lionfish. Until that happens, the small number of resident eradicators will fall further behind.
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By Jerry C Ligon (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #174) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 1:46 pm: |
I fail to see the logic in the "Ban the Plastic" crowd. How is ONE, temporary colored marker more dangerous to the health of the reef than ONE lionfish left alone? If anyone can show me how I am in error, I will apologize and shut up.
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By Eric author of "Why is the Grass Green?" (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1542) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 2:17 pm: |
Tell it brother!
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By Lloyd H (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #631) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 2:20 pm: |
Plastic liters the ocean for decades , then deteriorates into tiny particle that continue to pollute and poison plankton feeders .
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3402) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 2:31 pm: |
Frankly, my solution would be to have every visiting diver use the ELF if they so chose & have them just shoot the lion fish. I'm not crazy about all the markings I've seen underwater and I suspect when I get down in March I'm going to see much more.
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #851) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 3:08 pm: |
30,000 visiting divers per year, maybe making an average of 3 dives per day each, for maybe a week each (6 days). So that is 30,000 x 3 x 6 = 540,000 dives per year by visitors. Let's suppose only 3% of those dives are for lionfish eradication....that is still 16,000 lionfish dives per year, by visitors. Compare this with maybe 25(?) local folks (residents and divemasters) who are out hunting, and let's suppose they each do 2 lionfish dives per day, 5 days per week, every week; that is 25 x 2 x 5 x 52 = 13,000 dives per year for eradication. i suspect these number are an underestimate of the potential visiting hunters, and an overestimate of the likely resident hunters.
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By Anouk (BonaireTalker - Post #17) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 3:18 pm: |
Vince, have you got any idea what the bouyancy is of every diver? I can tell you that you would go crying if you saw everybody laying on top of the corals. They already do that while taking pictures, they will surely do that shooting lionfish. I know something must be done but I don't think this will be a good solution.
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By Lloyd H (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #632) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 3:35 pm: |
In the end nature will control what happens with the Lionfish invasion .
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By Antoine Dodson (BonaireTalker - Post #72) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 4:03 pm: |
Dont worry....I remove markers when I shoot em and I plan on shooting alot of them. The markers make it that much easier for me and maximize my bottom time...and the only thing touching the coral is their dead bodies.
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By Menno (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #381) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 4:29 pm: |
Bart - stop typing and start hunting! "Your" house-reef is not clean anymore.... 2 little ones (about 1 inch) are spotted at about 50Ft just before the large slide caused by the Sunset-pier during Lenny.....
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By Bart Snelder (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #112) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 4:38 pm: |
Mel, while I find even shooting controversial because of the potential damage to the reef, I agree that the effort needs to be expanded for now, by for example more ELF's deployed. I believe dive shops should be given the trust to be able to properly judge and select guests to use an ELF as well. I have plenty of guests, who are able and willing to do just that. However, I frankly doubt that the effort, no matter how intense, will even make a dent in the overall LF population. I saw several LF at the fishermen dock at Sorobon. They were all less than 2 inch, indicating that they may be breeding in the mangroves. The population is/will/has been exploding, but I guess we'll have to try.
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By Menno (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #382) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 4:45 pm: |
I also agree with Anouk. Not only may buoyancy control be an issue also dept is one. They tend to hang out quite a little deeper so I fear that Mr. vd Vaart will get more business then he can handle when "everybody" will be turned lose with an ELF. I suddenly find myself doing one deco dive after the other and sometimes do so unprepared! Especially when that LF is not hidden completely it will keep you there a lot longer then you want to..... I see a serious liability issue lurking around the corner for the ones who hand out the ELF's if that diver gets hurt using it.
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By Bart Snelder (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #113) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 4:50 pm: |
Hey Menno, I know, in fact there are many, I found more than twenty, from the big barrel to the Marina entrance. It is disheartening to see.......
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By Menno (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #383) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 4:54 pm: |
Oohhh..... they make those waves in the marina lately.
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By Jerry C Ligon (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #175) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 5:50 pm: |
Biodegradable ribbons, likely cellulose-based, appears to be the most plausible answer to our current ribbons.
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By Bonaire Tiki Girl aka Cindi (BonaireTalker - Post #79) on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 10:56 am: |
Regarding the marking of lionfish:
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By Bonaire Tiki Girl aka Cindi (BonaireTalker - Post #80) on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 10:57 am: |
To those of you who have recently provided tape, thank you. Markers have been made and are available for dive shops to distribute.
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By Eric author of "Why is the Grass Green?" (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1545) on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 12:00 pm: |
Surely there is a diveshop reading this that is seeing a potential market for guided lionfish hunting dives. Would require a licensing agreement with STINAPA or BNMP I'm sure but it would solve several of the issues being discussed here.
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By KOB (LBR32) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #405) on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 12:44 pm: |
Wow, e -- EXCELLENT idea !! I really hope this happens.
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By Bart Snelder (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #114) on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 1:12 pm: |
Cindi, I have helped create the BNMP, in fact maintained it when there was no active park yet. I am on the board of STINAPA, which directs STINAPA itself, which in turn directs the BNMP. Thus the BNMP does not speak for itself necessarily, but is directed.
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By Eric author of "Why is the Grass Green?" (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1547) on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 2:13 pm: |
We could make them out of those crinkly biodegradable Sun Chips bags they came out with a few months ago. I think they actually took them off the market because they were so amazingly noisy when you handled them. But they had a silver inner liner that would be highly visible.
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By Bonaire Tiki Girl aka Cindi (BonaireTalker - Post #81) on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 3:08 pm: |
Bart,
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By Darrin York (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 6:28 pm: |
Hi folks,
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By Antoine Dodson (BonaireTalker - Post #73) on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 12:46 pm: |
Good work Darrin!
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #852) on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 1:07 pm: |
It is not clear that the "biodegradable flagging tape" is designed or tested for use underwater. If it lasts a day, that is not long enough; if it lasts a year, that is too long; is a week about right? I'm trying to get some info from the coral-list research community right now about their use of biodegradable markers. Stay tuned. And corks may not be the most desirable floats....especially the plastic corks!
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By Bart Snelder (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #116) on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 3:12 pm: |
Hi all,
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By Antoine Dodson (BonaireTalker - Post #74) on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 8:59 am: |
I shouldnt even try the biodegradable tape, Mel?
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #854) on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 10:02 am: |
Antoine, it is not my call. Ramon gets to decide.
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By Bart Snelder (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #118) on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 9:18 pm: |
Wikileaks revealed: It was all predestined. Look at the names of the managers of our parks: Without my dentures in I got it: its ELFmarie Beukeboom and Ramon de Lion(fish)............
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