By Danidolly (BonaireTalker - Post #36) on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 9:24 am: |
Lord forbid I slip, but is it ok to wear gloves only during my entries & exits? Knock on wood...
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By ***Ron Gould*** (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2024) on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 9:56 am: |
If the Marine Park catch you they will confiscate your dive gear. Thousands of divers enter and exit these sites every year. Just become part of that number. You will be fine... Ron
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By Danidolly (BonaireTalker - Post #37) on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 10:37 am: |
Think I'll keep my gear... lol, thanks Ron :-)
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By brenda boates (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #125) on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 11:42 am: |
nooooooooooo
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By Michelle **in TEXAS** (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #621) on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 6:57 pm: |
OOOOHHHH NOOO the "G" word....YIKES !!
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By Tom Schamp (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #298) on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 8:54 pm: |
What do the Marine Park enforcers look like?
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By Pietri Hausmann (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #216) on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 9:43 pm: |
why should 'they' look like anything?? is it your game to break our reef protection laws?? if caught it is very serious .. dive on .. ? no .. just to destroy .. then move on to another island ..
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By Tribs - owns a Honda (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #8922) on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 10:51 pm: |
Tom...I saw them quite a bit on my last trip. Even had our tags checked while gearing up at Windsock. Very nice people who love the Bonaire reefs.
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By eddie blizzard (BonaireTalker - Post #53) on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 11:02 pm: |
If the Marine Park catch you they will confiscate your dive gear. if caught it is very serious .. dive on
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By Leo Irakliotis (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #425) on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 11:21 pm: |
Eddie, what it would take for you to understand the difference between an accidental and an intentional violation?
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By eddie blizzard (BonaireTalker - Post #54) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 12:22 am: |
Diver going into the water with gloves: intentional violation
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By MadMan (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #207) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 6:31 am: |
eddie
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By Ronald van Tol (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 8:05 am: |
I heard the truck driver at Karpata got fined because he was wearing gloves...
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By Michelle **in TEXAS** (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #624) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 8:18 am: |
Let's get past the Karpata mishap...PLEASE and THANK-YOU !
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By Freddie {Moderator} (Moderator - Post #773) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 9:04 am: |
Please stay on topic or this will be moved to CC
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By Leo Irakliotis (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #426) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 9:11 am: |
Eddie, prior to their first dive in Bonaire, divers go through mandatory orientation. At that orientation they are informed that no gloves are allowed. Thus if a diver enters the water with gloves, it means that either the diver was not paying attention to the orientation or that the dive shop was not providing a thorough orientation.
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By Leo Irakliotis (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #427) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 9:12 am: |
Sorry Freddie, didn't see your message. But I am on topic (word "gloves" appears twice in my comment!!!).
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By Will Brown (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #125) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 10:01 am: |
Tom S,
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By Tom Schamp (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #299) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 10:11 am: |
I was pondering a smart-*** reply involving my u/w gloves along with my hammer and chisel that I use to chop off whole brain corals with.
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By Krispi ***** (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #6752) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 10:16 am: |
do you know what "they " look like Will?
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By Danidolly (BonaireTalker - Post #38) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 10:28 am: |
Didn't know about that "G" word Michelle... LOL
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #526) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 10:38 am: |
I only wish the passion and effort expended on glove-wearers could be be transferred to those who pollute. My guess is it would make a much bigger positive effect on the reef!
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By Leo Irakliotis (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #428) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 10:41 am: |
Mel are you talking about divers who pollute or other pollution in general (eg, sewage sipage etc)?
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #527) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 10:41 am: |
I don't think the reef cares.
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By Leo Irakliotis (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #429) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 10:44 am: |
I understand but my followup question would have been about divers polluting and how? I think I am pretty conscientious myself but perhaps we all behave in ways that we may not perceive as polluting. Just curious about what we can do as divers if we are polluting the reef without knowing it.
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By Tom Schamp (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #300) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 10:55 am: |
I don't think individual divers do anything to pollute, let's be realistic.
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #528) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 10:59 am: |
I do not think divers are the big problem, other than their activities ashore....like "#1 and #2" and what the resorts do with it. If there were no divers at all on Bonaire, but the same tourist volume was replaced (for example) with casino fans, I suspect the reefs would continue to degrade at the same rate.
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By Leo Irakliotis (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #430) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 11:02 am: |
Fair enough Mel. It makes sense and I agree, though being a motivated devil's advocate, I might raise the broken windows theory to support the enforcement of the glove ban.
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By Danidolly (BonaireTalker - Post #39) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 11:29 am: |
Swimmers' Sunscreen Killing Off Coral
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #529) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 11:29 am: |
Leo, I'm not compelled that the broken windows theory is relevant here. Maybe a better analogy is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic....the BIG problem is looming, why are we focusing on the small things? It is like a ticking bomb in the
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By Leo Irakliotis (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #431) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 11:48 am: |
Mel, from a pure technical perspective I recognize your point and agree with it. The broken windows theory, however, introduces a social aspect into an otherwise technical problem. We (divers, residents of Bonaire, and others) are not machines. We function in a community/social nexus, observing behaviors of others and adopting our behavior accordingly.
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #530) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 11:59 am: |
Leo, often folks agree on the problem but do not agree on the solution. It worries me in this case that maybe there is not even agreement on the problem.
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By Leo Irakliotis (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #432) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 12:09 pm: |
Mel, I'll put a check mark on every one of your maybe's except for the last one.
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By Will Brown (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #126) on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 1:55 pm: |
Krispi,
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By eddie blizzard (BonaireTalker - Post #55) on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 6:11 pm: |
A BMP official not in uniform will never take my gear.
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By pat murphy (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2327) on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 8:38 pm: |
rest easy eddie...they do wear uniforms. not exactly a cross between mohamar qaddafi and michael jackson but they do have recognizable uniforms and patrol in a stinapa truck. they've stopped us once or twice after dives. they asked to see our tags, asked our opinion of the dive, where we were staying, how we liked it, etc. very pleasant experience.
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By Leo Irakliotis (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #438) on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 8:43 pm: |
Eddie do you just talk big because Bonaire is not the US, or would you be just as cavalier with stateside plain-clothed law enforcement officers?
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By Tom Schamp (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #302) on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 9:15 am: |
Well stated, Eddie.
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