By thierry trovatelli (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 2:39 pm: |
Just spend a month in bonaire, my wife and I use Dive inn, as well as 6 other divers staying at the same place, I must say I was not very satisfied with their tanks... 1 out of 4 had a problem while leaking from the o ring, my wife and me have made altogether 75 dives, so we use... 75 tanks from them, I let u calculate how many where actually leaking, plus all the other divers... one day after complaining I have been kindly asked by the management to take 2 more tanks that I needed just in case...It is very kind, but what would have happen if the o ring which blew up while preparing myself to make an earling morning dive at the hilma hooker would have blowed underwater...and u can ask u question about how often are checked their tank.
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By Ron Myers (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #218) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 2:55 pm: |
I always carry spare tank O-rings with me for just such situations. They are quite cheap and easy to install.
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By Ron Gould (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #369) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 3:34 pm: |
Thierry, I am a Dive Inn person. We have stayed and dove with them many times. I well agree with you that some of the tank O-rings leak but that happens at any diveshop. What we did is checked each tank with our regs before leaving for the day. I do that no matter where I get the tanks. Babs, Harry, or Peter will give you extra O-rings if you tell them about the problem and will show you the easy way to replace them if you don't know the trick. Some regs will leak more then others. My wife (Diane) has a Genesis Reg and it happened to her all the time. The seal surface is wider on some regs then others. My Daycor Viper Tek could use a tank that Diane's couldn't.
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By Marcus L. Barnes (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #422) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 4:44 pm: |
I don't know about the Dive Inn but I have expirienced bad o-rings on tanks from dive operators on Bonaire before. Good idea Ron. I think I'll start carrying extra O-rings also.
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By seb (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2491) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 5:41 pm: |
So Thierry, you could find no problem with the tanks when you checked the fill before you took them out? You could not hear them leaking? And anybody without spare o rings at the dive site is being silly. Even then you can still turn the o ring around and it usually seals.
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By Marcus L. Barnes (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #423) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 5:50 pm: |
Now that I think about it, we were gearing up at the dive shop instead at the dive site on our last visit in September. That was the first time we had done it that way; It gave us the opportunity to check the tanks prior to departure from the shop. Just the same, I think I'll still carry some O-rings.
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By Riekelt Brands (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #4) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 6:04 pm: |
I find it very inconvienient to check the tanks before taking them from the dive-shop.
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By thierry trovatelli (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #2) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 7:04 pm: |
Hi guys, tks for your comments and I agree with u very silly not to have a o ring with u, BUT i have been diving for 20 years and never had an o ring with me and let me tell u I have been diving all over the world and even in the most remote area, I am sorry but if u find normal to have 1 out 4 tank leaking (we checked all our thank sometimes we could notice the leaking, but sometimes not ), Me I do not find this normal, It is just because their tanks are NOT properly serviced or check :How much does it cost for a dive shop to have all their o ring change on a regular basis ?
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By Jerry Besco (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #103) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 8:50 pm: |
You are correct to bring this up Thierry. I've used Photo Tours on all my Bonaire diving for a total of eight weeks of diving and never had a bad O ring or any dive buddy I was with.
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By Ron Gould (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #370) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 9:06 pm: |
Grow up people, I have been diving for 42 YEARS( if that makes a difference)And I feel if your day is spoiled by a five cent leaking O-ring and you can't find it in your busy schedule to take the time to replace it(or don't know how) then for sure if you experiance a REAL problem I wouldn't want to be your buddy! We live in a spoiled society with people that can't perform simple tasks for themselves. Sure glad your pottie trained.. RANT!!
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By Kelly Baum (GDLW) (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3570) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 9:54 pm: |
Sorry folks, but it doesn't matter how long you've been diving.. just plain irresponsible not to check your tanks before leaving the dive shop, or at the very least carry a spare parts kit. It is never okay to trust someone else... take responsibility for yourself !
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By Rick Fortune (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #10) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:07 pm: |
Folks, I beleive the O-ring he is talking about is the tank O-ring, not the one for the regulator and no matter if you have a spare, it won't do you any good since the tank will be empty.
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By gregg brewer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #825) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:33 pm: |
Kelly..."irresponsible" where do you usually dive?.... hardly irresponsible... having an o-ring blow is not life threatening, it may shorten the dive..if the regulator is installed correctly, the tank doesn't empty instantaneously...to those who panic because a few bubbles are blowing out their reg's, I probably wouldn't want to dive with you anyway
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By Rick Fortune (BonaireTalker - Post #11) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:33 pm: |
It is the dive operation that is responsible for the carer and maintenance of the tanks. VIP's should be done every year and new O-rings put on. If a O-ring does blow underwater there would be time to safely ascend to the surface. Even though underwater the rush of air looks greater than it actually is. I believe an 80 cu. ft. tank takes approx. 11 minutes to drain when an O-ring blows, so you see there should be ample time to ascend safely. If these O-rings are leaking or blowing in that many tanks, I would question the care and maintenance the dive operation is performing. I would also question the quality of air they are supplying also.
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By Back to Jeanine, or is it Tribs? (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1515) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 11:18 pm: |
Hello everyone! It appears that we have a lot of experience on this thread so I want to throw out a somewhat related question. We never had an O-ring problem the two trips we made to Bon but did have neck leaks. On the first leak, our entire group decided to abort the dive because no one had any experience with this type of leak (and we had some old timers with us). The dive shop dismissed our concerns and said to keep diving and to just watch our gages. Of course, we just grabbed extra tanks and used them if we saw a leak once we were in the water (never could hear those leaks). On our second trip to Bon (same dive shop), we had the same problems. Several tanks leaked from the neck. When we got home, we asked my LDS and they had never heard of this happening. None of their tanks had ever sprung leaks there. Any one out there know how valid the advice was that we got on Bon? Can you safely dive if there is a leak at where the neck joins the tank? I know off subject, but you guys always have such good information that I thought I could ask.
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By Ron Gould (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #371) on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 11:38 pm: |
Rick it is the Valve O-ring not the Tank Ring. The O-ring betwwen the valve and the tank doesn't leak. If there is a problem in that area the tank will not hold air after the O-ring ruptures with a loud noise. I think the words "blew up" are being misused.
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By seb (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2492) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 12:09 am: |
Gregg, Thierry, I apologize if I was flaming, it's just makes me so sad that someone would spend a month on the island and what is most important to them in their first post is warning others about their dive shops o rings. I know it can be frustrating, but they are easy enough to switch out. I pressure check every tank I take out and discard the leakers. I'm with Kelly that you should check your gear before diving.
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By Kelly Baum (GDLW) (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3574) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 12:22 am: |
I just meant that you have to be responsible for yourself, not rely on a dive shop or someone else. It's the same reason I wouldn't rely on my buddy's dive computer; I would use my own. Oftentimes it's way too easy to blame others. Is it life threatening? Probably not. Probably like Seb says you'll most likely just lose a little air. But it only takes a second to check the small things like that. Would you get in the water without doing your BWRAF check?? That's not a buddy I want to dive with anyway. Not that I was invited. lol.
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By Ron Gould (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #372) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 12:28 am: |
Seb, Easy way to change valve O-ring is loosen the 1st stage on the tank and open the air valve a little and rock your first stage back and forth, side to side and the old ring will come out. No danger of scrating the O-ring seat with a tool. Complements of a Navy Seal Instructor that I trained with 42 years ago... Ron
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By Jane Marie Garchinsky (BonaireTalker - Post #100) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 1:40 am: |
After seeing the dive masters in Cozumel and some in Bonaire dive to 90' give or take 30', without any concern for their leaky tank valves, I've become relatively complacent with tiny leaks in my first stage to tank connections. That is unless when I charge the HP hose on the surface the noise blows me away. That's not to say I don't check my air supply much much more frequently during the dive when I suspect something. Most times its tough to hear a leak with the wind and waves breaking on Bonaire.
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2253) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 1:41 am: |
Neck leaks can be from at least 2 sources: the o-ring between the valve and the tank, and cracks in the aluminum of the neck. The latter has been a problem with Al tanks for years; it can result from work hardening of the tank metal during the many air cycles rental tanks experience on Bonaire (and elsewhere). It is one reason many shops on Bonaire get new tanks every year. I am not sure if new tanks are a requirement. I expect some shops continue to rent older tanks.
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By Menno de Bree (BonaireTalker - Post #42) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 7:45 am: |
Thierry, if you were so very, very unhappy at the Dive Inn, why didn't you simply check out and go somewhere else ???
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By thierry trovatelli (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #3) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 8:16 am: |
Hi everyone,
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By thierry trovatelli (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #4) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 8:24 am: |
Hi Menno,
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By Menno de Bree (BonaireTalker - Post #43) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 9:03 am: |
Hi Thierry,
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By pat murphy (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #450) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 10:38 am: |
if the o-ring in question is the one between the valve and the first stage, it sometimes can be damaged while being filled at the shop. if their valve from their air supply has a burr on the fitting it will scratch the o-rings to the point that they will wear out faster. we own our own tanks on bonaire but i always take a supply of o-rings with me in case we have a problem. and, yes, we've learned to dive with small leaks...as was mentioned above, small leaks look worse than they are and you probably don't lose more than 25-50# of air in a one hour dive.
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By Ron Gould (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #373) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 12:30 pm: |
Pat, where do you get your tanks that you own Hydro-tested?
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By thierry trovatelli (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #5) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 1:16 pm: |
hi Menno,
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By Mickey McCarthy (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #232) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 3:39 pm: |
Hi all
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #128) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 4:13 pm: |
Did'nt NASA have a problem with O rings?
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By Marcus L. Barnes (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #425) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 5:07 pm: |
Bet it wouldn't be easy to replace NASA's O rings yourself.
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By Menno de Bree (BonaireTalker - Post #44) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 5:12 pm: |
I never saw any complaints about it on "Moon Talk" either.
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #130) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 5:15 pm: |
After 31 post on the O ring subject you would think it was the NASA O ring problem.
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By Cynde Loo Hoo WWNMT2 (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #15641) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 5:42 pm: |
Menno, I never saw any either ;-)
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #134) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 6:19 pm: |
Let's harp on this a bit more.
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By pat murphy (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #452) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 6:50 pm: |
ron, we've only had the tanks there about a year and a half now so they haven't needed hydro yet. i'll check into that as the time gets closer.
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By thierry trovatelli (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #6) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 7:36 pm: |
Hi Cynde,
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By Gail Thomas (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #766) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 10:21 pm: |
Menno and Cynde - perhaps no complaints on "Moon Talk" because all of those involved are dead...........
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By Back to Jeanine, or is it Tribs? (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1527) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 10:32 pm: |
Inquiring minds want to know...what is Moon Talk?
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By Brian (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1308) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 3:48 am: |
Neck leaks that I have seen tend to be were the valve and alu tank are joined rather than a structural failing of the metal. I have seen this all over the world and I think it happens as the jointing compound starts to deterioate and a fine mist of bubbles can be seen escaping from the neck seal. I always inform the staff after the dive so that the tank can be fixed and do pretty much the same with O rings. We used to be fussy about having a fizzer with a slightly leaking O ring but now realise that the leak is usually insignificant on the dive duration ( I used to take off my BC so I could assess the leak).
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By Jon (BonaireTalker - Post #21) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 7:42 am: |
Thierry and others;
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By Menno de Bree (BonaireTalker - Post #45) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 8:28 am: |
Moon Talk is a "discussion board" for people who traveled to the Moon or are planning to do so. You can just lurk or join in via www.moontalk.com.
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By Back to Jeanine, or is it Tribs? (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1531) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 8:47 am: |
Who was nagging?
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #141) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 11:47 am: |
What's an O ring again?
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By Cynde Loo Hoo WWNMT2 (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #15653) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 11:57 am: |
Menno, I thought you were kidding about "Moon Talk." Gee, there really is a chat board...wow...Gail, thus my *tks* because I had no idea it was a real board ;-)
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By Marcus L. Barnes (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #426) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:03 pm: |
As far as I can tell, an O Ring is a device used by NASA.
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #143) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:40 pm: |
INSTALLATION DAMAGE
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By Back to Jeanine, or is it Tribs? (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1532) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:52 pm: |
Nice link Menno...but I'm not looking to buy a house in Eastgate. Seriously now, what is moon talk?
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By Mare (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1220) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:52 pm: |
Here's a moon song.
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By Rog & Karen Huff (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #175) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 1:51 pm: |
When we put our reg's on the tank and check pressure we also check and listen for leaks...if we hear air escaping we take reg off and check o-ring position (sometimes when tanks are filled the o-ring comes loose), then we lick the o-ring with our finger...that normally takes care of the problem. just our 2 cents...
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By thierry trovatelli (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #7) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 1:54 pm: |
hi Ron and Hi Brian,
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #147) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 2:08 pm: |
Thierry, do you carry a O ring with you?
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By Cynde Loo Hoo WWNMT2 (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #15659) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 2:09 pm: |
Mare, LMAO...
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #149) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 2:26 pm: |
Do you need a special O ring for deep diving?
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2255) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 2:28 pm: |
Re Brian's neck seal post above: I thought that all tanks today used an o-ring seal between the valve and tank rather than teflon tape as my steel 72's have, or a 'compound'. ??????
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By Marcus L. Barnes (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #427) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 2:29 pm: |
Maybe Thierry has some.
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #150) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 2:31 pm: |
Glen, are you talking about plumbers tape and paste?
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By Cynde Loo Hoo WWNMT2 (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #15661) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 2:49 pm: |
Jerry...LOL...you remember the deep diving thread don't you?
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #152) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 2:55 pm: |
A tank / valve leak is not good. If air can get out, water can get in. Even with 3000psi in the tank, water is able to SNEEK in a bit. Last year I had a bad tank, very bad, it had a small amount of water in it and it stunk.
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #153) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 3:02 pm: |
Who is talking about deep diving. I just want to talk about O rings.
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By Cynde Loo Hoo WWNMT2 (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #15665) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 3:07 pm: |
All I need is this O ring...and this tank...and this fin...that's all I need...oh, and this wrench...that's all I need
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #155) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 3:13 pm: |
Try using a larger mouth piece, it could keep you from grinding your teeth.
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2256) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 5:39 pm: |
Not sure about the name 'plumbers tape and paste'. I don't remember seeing any compound on an old tank seal; that was mentioned above by Brian. I was talking about a teflon tape used by the tank test people and dive shops; likely the same material as 'plumber's tape'.
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2257) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 5:42 pm: |
Cyn,
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By Patrick T. (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #578) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 6:20 pm: |
Well i guess i need to put my two cents into this conversation. In my thirty years of diving and taking care of scuba cylinders. I have never ever had a tank take on any amount of water as long as it was filled with air. For your info tank neck o-rings will start to deteriorate in about a couple years time normally, but because these tanks are used so much on the islands they deteriorate quicker because of the salt in the air. Thats one of the reasons for annual inspections on scuba cylinders.
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By Cynde Loo Hoo WWNMT2 (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #15669) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 7:01 pm: |
Glen, deep diving tanks require special deep diving O rings...;-)
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By Rick Fortune (BonaireTalker - Post #12) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 7:43 pm: |
Holy smokes, 66 post about little itty bitty o-rings.
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By Menno de Bree (BonaireTalker - Post #46) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 7:50 pm: |
Aiaiai Rick - never ever underestimate the importance of an o-ring !!!
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By Cynde Loo Hoo WWNMT2 (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #15673) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 7:58 pm: |
I think the takeaway message for us all is...one can never have too many O rings...
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By Ron Gould (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #376) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 8:03 pm: |
Anytime you find liquid inside of a tank it is from the shop compressor.. Ron
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2259) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 10:56 pm: |
Ron,
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2260) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 10:59 pm: |
So many of us here are just itching for something to talk about!!! Just friends!!! As Cyn said, though, this is much better than deep diving if as long! :–)
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By Moderator (Moderator - Post #20) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 11:07 pm: |
How about we all move this discussion over to HERE
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By Ron Gould (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #377) on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 6:58 pm: |
Hi Ron,
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By Ron Gould (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #378) on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 8:50 pm: |
Read my 6:58 post.
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By seb (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2496) on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:16 pm: |
Thierry, the ball is in your court!
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By thierry trovatelli (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #8) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 2:15 pm: |
Hi Ron, Hi BAbs,Hi Harry and Hi Peter,Hi all the one I forgot
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By Patrick T. (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #587) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 3:10 pm: |
Thierry, for some reason i understand what you were trying to get across when you posted your first post. I still don't understand why people attack somebody for posting what happened. O-rings become bad and unfortunely you came across alot of bad o-rings from the dive shop. First off why should somebody on vacation have to worry about a bunch of bad o-rings on tank valves. YOUR ON VACATIONS. They should be checked by the person filling those tanks and i mean everytime that they are filled they should be checked. Things happen all the time but if you keep getting bad tanks enough is enough people. You come to my shop or any shop in the states, they should check for vis. sticker, hydro date, what the valve looks like and they should always check the o-ring to see what type of shape it is in. If not you need to find a new shop to go to. Hey i like bonaire also but you all need to stop this attack on somebody just because you don't like what they have to say. GROW UP AND BE ADULTS COME ON PEOPLE THIS IS A FORUM
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By Marcus L. Barnes (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #430) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 3:37 pm: |
There's nothing wrong with posting your negative expiriences on Bonaire Talk; however, I feel the poster could have gotten the point across without this statement "u should be advised to choose another dive shop for your tanks." It would not surprise me to to know that this is the statement that upset some Bonaire Talkers. No doubt it was perceived as a direct attack on someone's favorite shop and was seen as unnecessary to the point he was trying to make. When one makes a statement like that, one should expect a response.
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #174) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:03 pm: |
How is this guy Thierry?
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By Back to Jeanine, or is it Tribs? (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1558) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:05 pm: |
Well...having been slaughtered for my opinions on this forum on more than one occasion, I do understand where Thierry is coming from; but, I also understand why someone might have been offended by how the statement was written. However, I think regardless of whatever else happened on the trip, this stuck with him and we should hear him out. I don't think it is fair to say it is easier to wait until you get home to complain, especially not in this case. Obviously he did complain to Dive Inn, per their admission. It was nice of Dive Inn to assist him like they did with his computer problems, but if you look at their response, no where did they say they started checking their O-rings or assured Thierry that they would fix the bad tanks. I'm kind of with Patrick...he was on vacation people. Why should he have to take the extra o-rings from the shop and the extra tanks just to enjoy a service that he paid for? The occasional leak is one thing and we should all carry spare o-rings just in case, but repeated problems is another matter entirely.
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By Patrick T. (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #588) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:05 pm: |
Marcus, this i understand. I can also see his point. Hey i'm on vacation why should i have to worry about a o-ring. I have also learned that your reputation on an island is a big thing also, if you are not taking care of the little things ie: your tanks with the little o-rings then what about the big things that we don't see. The filters on the intakes, have you wondered about those, I have and its because i'm in the business. Just a few things to think about.
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By Gail Thomas (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #775) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:33 pm: |
Way to go Jeanine. Well said!
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By Cynde Loo Hoo WWNMT2 (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #15713) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:42 pm: |
Jeannie, you and Patrick make some good points and are right, BT is here for learning both the good, and the not so good. I think the things that got everyone riled up were:
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By Menno de Bree (BonaireTalker - Post #51) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:44 pm: |
So, when somebody has been on vacation he can burn a diveshop down because of more bad o-rings then in his opinion is acceptable ????
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By Gail Thomas (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #778) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:59 pm: |
Menno - The concept of "investing a US$ or 2 would have prevented quite a lot of ...... ehhh .... typing." would go to the dive shop as well. Why can the dive shop not Listen, Learn, and Resolve to to better?
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By Tom (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2911) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:20 pm: |
Folks, I have tried to stay out of this one, however, one thing that has bothered me several times is the insinuation that a dive shop that has some bad o-rings might also be remiss in maintaining their compressors and or filtration systems. There is not a dive shop that I have visited on Bonaire whose air I would not breathe. Just like at my shop here at home, the Bonaire based Dive Ops Owners/Managers, their friends, their employees and in some cases their family members fill their tanks off of those very compressors/storage banks we, as visitors receive our air from.
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By Menno de Bree (BonaireTalker - Post #52) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:49 pm: |
Hi Gail,
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By Mare (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1230) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:53 pm: |
How to have a good time:
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By Bob Liguori (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #237) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 9:27 pm: |
Yea Mare!!
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By Gail Thomas (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #780) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 9:51 pm: |
Yea Mare!! But why can't the dive shops that know there's a problem work to resolve it in a positive light!
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #177) on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 11:41 am: |
Apx 1000 Bonaire dives, only once did I get a SKUNKY tank. It was last year. I informed the dive opp and they took off the valve, and it did stink, and had a bit of water in it.
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2261) on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 3:44 pm: |
Jerry,
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By Fiona Rattray (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #346) on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 4:00 pm: |
Mare, I agree, and you're too funny, blame the o-ring's parents... :-)
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #184) on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 4:04 pm: |
The DM took out an old dive knife and had to put down the little O ring, better off I belive?
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By Fiona Rattray (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #347) on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 4:23 pm: |
Jerry, that's a serious hairdo you've got in your profile, perhaps an o-ring overdose?
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #186) on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 4:37 pm: |
That was taken right after a very deep dive in the mangroves.
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By James T. McPeak (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #327) on Thursday, January 5, 2006 - 5:46 pm: |
Well, if it makes anyone feel better, Babs had o rings mailed to my house for me to bring down to the shop. The Dive Inn is now in possession of a thousand new o rings.
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By Patrick T. (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #656) on Thursday, January 5, 2006 - 10:48 pm: |
James i will sleep better tonight because of you. Thank you so very much.
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