By Corney Ann Carter on Friday, February 1, 2002 - 10:20 am: |
What is going on with the auction scheduled for the Sand Dollar as mentioned in the Bonaire Reporter?
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By michael gaynor on Friday, February 1, 2002 - 3:38 pm: |
check out www.bonaireauction.com.
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By Jake Richter - NetTech on Friday, February 1, 2002 - 3:42 pm: |
There are apparently two auctions. One is the one Michael pointed you at, the other is one, which according the Bonaire Reporter, is for the Sand Dollar Dive & Photo business, on February 6th, I believe. The former is the current owners of certain parts of the area surrounding the Sand Dollar Condos wanting to get the best possible price for something they no longer want, while the latter (dive shop) is a creditor driven event.
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By Dean Botsford on Friday, February 1, 2002 - 7:32 pm: |
jeeez, the dive shop too? that is bad news
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By Chet Wood on Saturday, February 2, 2002 - 8:49 am: |
OK, for all BT'ers there during the 23 Feb to 9 March time frame that want to meet us- we'll be the ones huddled around the camp-fire in the Sand$ parking lot trying to adapt spare tires for use as dive tanks.
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By Bob Liguori on Saturday, February 2, 2002 - 8:57 am: |
Geeze Chet,
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By Tom Cousino on Saturday, February 2, 2002 - 9:22 am: |
Chet,
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By michael gaynor on Saturday, February 2, 2002 - 9:39 am: |
Wanna Dive is temporatily running the dive shop at Sand Dollar Property.
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By Cynde Lee on Saturday, February 2, 2002 - 12:39 pm: |
this has made me soooo sad. we had such a great time at the sand$ in september, and loved the folks at the dive shop. do you think that someone will buy the dive shop and keep running it, or will it just end up another empty building?
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By michael gaynor on Saturday, February 2, 2002 - 3:02 pm: |
Rest assured it will not remain empty. Sand Dollar Condominuim Resorts will have an operational shop and many of the familiar faces will be there.
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By Cynde Lee on Sunday, February 3, 2002 - 12:00 am: |
thanks Michael, as bari is my favorite "dive at 5" and "dive at 10' and 'dive at 1' and 'dive at 3'...i would be really bummed when we get there next! good luck to all those that are working there. does wanna dive have the old sand$ crew? erica and the rest, are they still there?
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By Anonymous on Sunday, February 3, 2002 - 11:31 am: |
Things happen in businesses and many times the new Phoenix has the same form with even brighter plumage.
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By DIVER DEBBI on Sunday, February 3, 2002 - 11:48 am: |
don't we all love the people @ Sand Dollar....can't wait to see everybody there on thursday morning..even if I do have to sit thru that stupid orientation class again...hope the best for the dive shop..may it have continued success
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By Meryl Virga on Monday, February 4, 2002 - 11:32 am: |
I tried to contact Sandollar since we are going in May..but no one has written back...yet anyway...Is Andre,Lionel and Alvin there? Wanna dive is now their dive shop? Is the dive shop auction the same day as the other auction in Feb? I'm full of questions today huh? They are our favorite place and we are already scheduled ...just would like to know what to expect.
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By Glen Reem on Monday, February 4, 2002 - 7:10 pm: |
The dive shop auction is scheduled for 6 Feb., according to this week's Bonaire Reporter. You might try calling the Florida Sand Dollar reservations telephone number for info about your reservation. An 800 number but the office is in FL.
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By Jack Brewer on Tuesday, February 5, 2002 - 11:19 am: |
I just talked to Kathy @ Sand Dollar reservations in FLA. She assures me that nothing will change as far as the guests will know. It is financial manuvering concerning ownership of the land the condo's are actually sitting on. The same is true of the dive shop.
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By michael gaynor on Tuesday, February 5, 2002 - 12:20 pm: |
Please keep in mind folks that the Sand Dollar Dive and Photo and the Condos are separate busnesses. The Dive shop is a forced auction while the one for the Condos is by the owners of the property and have nothing to do with financial woes other than liquidation.
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By Anonymous on Tuesday, February 5, 2002 - 4:53 pm: |
Sometimes 'forced' auctions are part of voluntary planning.
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By Pamela Teitel Werdath on Tuesday, February 5, 2002 - 5:23 pm: |
The hotel operation is running as always with no changes. The developer of the property is having a voluntary auction of their personal holdings, which includes the grounds, shops, restaurant, garages and three apartments. Many people are confusing this with a forced auction which it is not. In addition, the apartments that are being auctioned were never part of the rental operation anyhow. If sold, they may be an addition then! All of the other Condos are privately owned and the Association will continue as always. We have a new maintenance manager who is making great strides on improving the units as well. The developer has placed requirements on each parcel so that the new owner could not disrupt the operations and would be required to maintain them for the use of the condos. (As the developer currently is responsible)
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By Glen Reem on Tuesday, February 5, 2002 - 7:09 pm: |
TKS, Pam.
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By Cynde Lee on Tuesday, February 5, 2002 - 10:25 pm: |
no kidding...thanks Pam...keep us posted.
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By Meryl Virga on Wednesday, February 6, 2002 - 12:03 am: |
Pam...I guess this means Andre is gone? So who is left? Alvin ? Lionel? Erica? can you give us details?
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By Meryl Virga on Thursday, February 7, 2002 - 12:33 am: |
Can anyone comment...? I know there are condo owners out there...we are die hard Sandollar fans...an have put up with a few years of their misfortune. (They being the sufferers...) I just want to see familiar faces....Will miss Andre and his dog Coco...(who I have become quite attached to!) Andre if you get this I would love to see you and Coco on our next trip in May...Lionel, ALvin, ET, ERICA! Susie, Jerry, Jon,,,hope to see you somewhere on the island ....Please email us if we could be of any help.... SGiamporcaro@comcat.net
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By Glen Reem on Thursday, February 7, 2002 - 12:19 pm: |
Coco, at least, is available for loving at Kaya Neerlandia #1, just behind Voz di Bonaire, when she (C!!) isn't out running. She (C again!!) has made a small pit in the earth just outside the front wall, in the shade of a tree, that is cool during the day. Also the other 2 4-leggers that come to Sand Dollar with C.
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By Meryl Virga on Thursday, February 7, 2002 - 1:49 pm: |
Glen Thanks! I think I will miss her the most! (only kidding guys!) But at least now I know where to stop to see her.
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By Glen Reem on Thursday, February 7, 2002 - 8:34 pm: |
Meryl,
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By Meryl Virga on Friday, February 8, 2002 - 12:14 am: |
Glen sorry! Its SGiamporcaro@comcast.net
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By Jake Richter - NetTech on Saturday, February 9, 2002 - 2:11 pm: |
Hi all,
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By Meryl Virga on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 12:37 am: |
Auction must be over by now...anyone know any out comes.....
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By Anonymous on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 1:17 pm: |
I will be with my family there at sand dollar withing the next few weeks, can someone update us on the situation?
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By Jack Brewer on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 1:26 pm: |
According to www.bonaireauction.com the auction for the pieces of Sanddollar is not till Feb 19.
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By Glen Reem on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 7:38 pm: |
Pam Teitel, the General Manager of Sand Dollar Condominiums, posted a report here: http://www.oldbonairetalk.com/newsgroup/messages/24/18661.html?#POST47776. I expect she will answer an email request for more info, especially a few days after the auction on the 19th. Perhaps she will post here then also.
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By Jake Richter - NetTech on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 3:03 pm: |
Correction on my previous post about the NAF 76,000 - that was for ALL FOUR boats. Bonbini Divers got the Sand Tiger, Al's got two, and Mike from the Pirate Yacht got the fourth one.
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By Anonymous on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 4:32 pm: |
ANY news on the results of the auction? is the Sand Dollar still operating? what about their diving facilities?
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By Jake Richter - NetTech on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 4:44 pm: |
The diving facilities are a separately owned business from both the condo association (which is in full operation) and the Weisburgs (who owned all the things being auctioned yesterday). The dive business was declared bankrupt a few days ago, and will be dissolved (not unexpected, and leaves the door open for a new business with less politics and better ownership - the Weisburgs were a majority owner in the dive shop).
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By Meryl Virga on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 12:48 am: |
Don't know if thats good or bad news...what about a LOTTERY....sell tickets,I know I'd buy a few..and when you get to the amount they
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By RJ Faddis on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 9:35 am: |
Does anyone have any real insight as to the Sand Dollar woes? I am planning my ninth trip and have stayed there all but one because I really like the condos. I know the dive shop and condos are seperate but from my standpoint they still operate as one. I am however looking into elsewhere this year simply because of the uncertainty at Sand Dollar. It's a shame. There is so much lost potential there.
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By Anonymous on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 1:26 pm: |
Thanks Jake, has Sand Dollar guests missed any diving? since the shop is not functioning any more? who is covering (if any) for them now? is it safe?
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By Linda Richter - NetTech on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 1:33 pm: |
WannaDive is still covering.
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By Glen Reem on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 2:09 pm: |
The following was posted on BT on 5 February. Still true, I expect.
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By Pamela Teitel Werdath on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 5:41 pm: |
Hi everyone! Sorry I have not had a chance to get on line lately! All of the above is still accurate. The auction is done and as Jake mentioned already, nothing was sold, the developer turned down all bids (as they were quite low). It was only the personal holdings of the developer for sale anyhow, none of which would have affected the condo operations.
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By RJ Faddis on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 6:39 pm: |
Thanks Pam, it would take some really bad news for me not to stay at Sand Dollar.
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By Jorge Carvajal on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 12:41 pm: |
Thank you so much Pam, it is so good to know that things are going ok specially when we will be there withing a month; we are looking forward to your place.
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