Hi, gang,
I asked Jake, and some of you already said it's a good idea, to make a special webpage dedicated to all the reefcam dwellers we gave a name. This could be interesting for the newbies, and just fun for us.
Jean Paul being a webmaster, he told me how to do webpages, so I can take care of this one, if you agree of course.
Here is Jake's authorisation :

"Martine (and anyone else), if you can cobble together a "ReefCam Cast" Web page using ReefCam image, nicknames, and real fish information about the fish/critter involved, I can format it and make it a permanent part of BonaireTalk - even with links on every BT WebCams page.
Jake"

It has to be very simple, just a pic ( but necessarilly from the reefcam ) including the real name and details of the fish and the nickname we gave. I think the best would be the small sized pictures. I count on you for the details :o)
You can post on this thread all the archived pics of our little friends. Then we'll make our choice.
I know Annie has a pretty good collection, and she surely will be a GREAT help.
Any suggestion and comment yours will be welcome.
Please just use this thread for this purpose. Thanks.
Could be great to do this in one week...
Martine

Great idea, would be great for the newbies. Using my memory, which is shaky at best.

Damsel Fish = Charlotte
Blue Headed Wrasse = Bluebeard
Tang = Tweety (not seen in awhile)
Cleaner Goby = Slim
Cooney = Beldare
Surgeon Fish = Dr Pepper
Porcupine Fish = Puff

and don't forget Jake, Linda, Yana, Bas, Grendal, Blikje, and Mandy.

Oh and

Spanish Hogfish = Picasso

cecil, the coney is Jo, after rusty's stepmom

octipus - shiva

i also like having their "scientific name" by them and then maybe a brief description of their behavior

Sure, Cecyl, thanks
We also have
Octopus = Shiva
Spanish hogfish = Picasso
Trumpetfish = Satchmo
Who more ?
We can't forget any of them !

Hi Cynde, welcome aboard !
Scientific name is not a problem, I have a pretty good encyclopedia. I will need your help to give me a light description on their behaviour....in english !
Hi folks, it will be a pretty nice webpage !

To give a moe specific name, Charlotte is a yellow tail damselfish (losing her blue juvenile spots. Tweetie is a blue tang, but was in the yellow juvenile color phase. We may not be seeing him because he grew up. Then there are the coral heads, which were named a couple years ago and that Meryl resurrected from the archives:



I assume the corals are probably all species of Porites, except, for Brains. But someone would have to do a direct check on that, since reef cam doesn't show enough detail to be sure.

(Message edited by c_photo on February 27, 2003)

I might note that Rusty has suggested that Smokey (for Smokey the Bear) is a more flattering name for Pimples.

This is her Smokey Gif along with a relatively current reef cam capture. Certainly seems to be resemblance to me.

Hi everyone. I am such a stranger here. I haven't posted in so long. I thank each and everyone one of you for keeping this going so good. We are to return to Bonaire this June. We are taking a friend that hasn't been there yet. That will be so FUN...

Wow, thanks, John,
First "scientific" post.
I think nobody don't mind any other yellow tang appearing on the cam remains called "Tweetie", even if the real one has grown up...

Jake, could it be possible to have this thread tittle appear in bold or different colours, cause we probably work on it every day and it would be more noticeable for everyone. Thanks

Somehow I missed the Tweety name contest...must be Tweety 1 through 101 or something like that. Excellent recap on the names, John & Martine...it's been a while since Shiva has made an appearance...

Fish parade...they are liking the individual attention...

Don't forget "Landshark"...the pointy creature on the left side of the screen near the "new" wall built next to Jake's place. Carole

A/K/A: "Candygram"....Carole

The fish in the 13:16 is Jo the Coney...Here's one of Hotlips (who we almost forgot) from the archives..
and "Spot" the spot wing comb jelly..

And who could forget "Jake"
the cleaner fish?

Color of thread name changed to Red, Martine.

Might I suggest that you create a four page "mini-site"?

Main Page for Bonaire WebCams Cast of Characters - Explains repeat visitors to the ReefCam/StreetCam are named; rationale for naming; etc. Has links to the other pages.

ReefCam Fish Page - Covers ReefCam Fish (things with fins)

ReefCam Everything Else - Covers Shiva and the coral heads, and spot, etc.

Other Cam Critters - Landshark, Grendel, Mandy, Blikie, etc.

Use a temporary Web space, like Yahoo! Geocities or something you might have on a server you use (in a subdirectory, perhaps) to design the pages, and once done, I'll move it all over here to BT and apply additional formatting as appropriate.

Nice to see so much BT community support for this great project idea Martine had!

Jake

Okay, that takes way more computer saavy than I have, Jake but I'll be glad to contribute...I see slim wants to be sure to be included...

Hi folks, that sounds great !!!
Thanks to you, you are

martine,
It is truly amazing how you started up this BWCWW.
Being ofcourse BonWebCamWho'sWho.
This would even make it more appealing to watch the cams.
And don't forget the long , hard and "sporty" discussions we are going to get about any possible flaws in identification !!!
I am looking forward to do my bit.
Do foto's taken of the "dwellers "by BT divers at the scene count as well?
Make it a good one everyone!:-)
Jos.
( Dan , we'll switch camduty tomorrowmorning/tonight as usual.)
please get me some GOOOOOOOD sunsets everyone.
Night night.

Folks, I need help,
Who is JO, Coney ?
We also have Sam don't remember if he is barracuda
Any name for the parrotfish ?
Don't we have a tarpon too, I think so.
We have to gather all of them... and name if they aren't...

Good stuff all. One thing that was missed.

Welcome back, Okladiver!!

It's been a long time, nice to have you back in the cult.

Jos, the problem is copyrights rules, so that's why reefcam pics are no problem. Now, if we miss one dweller's "face" on a reefcam, perhaps some BTers own pics could be available. Must first ask our moderator.

Jo, post 13:16 today was named for someones(sorry, I forgot who)Mom who had passed away...Don't recall if the parrotfish ever got named (I"ve missed a lot of discussions being mostly off line a lot over the past few mos.) Where is everyone today? Probably busy at work like I should get to be here!

If the person contributing a substitute picture is the one who took the picture him/herself and is willing to grant us (BonaireTalk/NetTech/Stroke Of Color) unrestricted rights to use the image on the BonaireTalk Web site, then it can be used. Otherwise not.

Jake

One more we forgot.

French Grunt = Napoleon (another one not seen in awhile)

This is a great idea. If any help is needed, let me know and I'll try to fit it in my schedule...

Did the French Angelfish = Pierre?

Did the French Angelfish = Pierre?

Satchmo on the old cam:

Napoleon:

Martine, like your goal, pity you'r holiday nearly finished. Perhaps more creative things to develop if you stay off long enough
Joost

Picasso;

Niki, beautiful pic's

That is the best Satchmo I've seen! Can't wait for more from the collective archives! I have a few more at home but will have to count on the extraordinary talkers for more info on them!

Wow, great captures folks. Thanks !

Bear with me folks. I'll go look at my collection. I fear I may have deleted some though once I knew who they were. Be back soon. Annie B.

I'm curious Annie, guess you also have a great collection. How is Emma doing today?

Bluebeard:

Shiva:

Charlotte:



and the sargent major, called what?

Here are some that I collected. Forgive me if it creates double posts though.

Four eyed Butterfly fish

Picasso the hogfish

Princess Parrotfish

forgot this one

and this one

Satchmo the trumpetfish

School of Chub

Spotted Eagle Ray

Stoplight Parrotfish??

Tarpon

Jo:

Tweety:

here are my contributions for the good cause..
Spike
Pierre
Puff
another of Satch
hotlips
and of course Charlottes Home...

Whew! This is going to be one very extensive web site. Unfortunately, as I have posted them, I have also deleted them, so I have no archives.

Hi, just dropping in before I head for lunch.

Besides, I've never captured anything at all as fine as some I've seen here today.

Barracuda has a name?

They're all Doctors:

Dr Pepper:

You definitely are marvelous.
I fel in love with Annie 02jun2002 1444 and 31 jan 2003 1432 parrotfishes.
We must find a name for them, as for the tarpon, butterflyfish, eagle spotted eagle ray and princess parrotfish. I know you'll find the apropriate names.
Does anybody has the eagle ray in small version ?
Well folk, nice work. Time for me to go to bed.
I was just thinking about Torpedo for the tarpon and Peanut for the four eyes butterflyfish.
We made a great progress tonight.

Martine, you'll probably like this parrot too:

Don't know if any of these are any good.

My fish Id folder is in a right mess. Can't find what I am looking for. LOL Annie B.

We must have at least one of Barney...

And I found this unlikely trio...

Martine, a cropped image of the eagle ray would be better than the small version, so the ray is more visible. You could use this:

Barbara, I think the 13:16 post is a damselfish, not a coney. :-)

Yes, you're correct, Niki...in looking back, I thought it was Jo since I remember her being dark...but the real Jo proved me wrong! :-)
Here are a few more from my archives..

And a couple of barracuda...

lots of work done here;)

i don't know how i missed most of these fish namings (as much as i have lurked) - maybe i was around when pierre got named - that's it...i'd stick with webcam photos only - they do have a certain sort of charm (or something;))

other "better" fish id pictures, info - maybe are covered elsewhere in other threads anyway...

Hmm...didn't realize that the second barracuda photo was so big...can anyone shrink it? I like the fact that it looks like dinners on the table..

Hi folks, just popping out, hard to sleep, but no snoring story... Who is Barney ? Don't remember, and as far as I saw, there is no clear pic of Slim... Must seriously think about sleeping now. Lots of work tomorrow. I already have nice stuff to start this webpage when I am back from work.

I can't be bothered to sort this lot out, so I am just gonna post them. Annie B.

Barbara is this better??

Duh!! I am a member so I can get into the archives!!!

These pics are beautiful. Just beautiful.

Yay, Freddie! On the way home from work the archives dawned on me too...that Gold Membership really is worth it! Jake, we may need another page for "group shots" vs. the solo portraits, those bait balls were great! And we shouldn't forget the other "fish" like the "Mini-fish"

Wow, does Martine have her work cut out for her!!

Martine, :-)

Slim, the cleaner goby, is out of focus because he is on the surface of the lens. Doubt if he's ever managed to float by at a reasonable distance to be in sharp focus. You could put the blurry pic on with the explanation, and maybe a non-reefcam detail, if someone can supply one.

Barney, I think, is a joke (an American children's television joke)... Not a real nicknamed fish, but I could be wrong....

Mx`k we ever named the parrotfish because they are so abundant and have so many phases and different markings that they don't seem like "one personality"

Can anyone remember the names we briefly used for squid? I know I have a good squid on reefcam, but I will go to bed rather than boot up the other computer and look for it.

Good night, guys. 12:45am upper left corner

Wha--?

Niki, I've made some typo's but I think this one has to go in the books. What kind of keyboard do you use??

Martine: ( and all participants in this soon to be known as MEGA PROJECT) I have some name suggestions
the eagle ray : eddie the eagle .the"famous"british ski-jumper
ray charles : for obvious reasons.
sugar ray leonard.: the boxer,

What about Barry for the Barracuda.

i like barry for the 'cuda ;)

what happened to barry anyway?

;)

Niki...we really did name that fish Barney...he hovered off and on for a week or so...I haven't seen him in a while and don't know what kind of a fish he is... :-)

I think the barracuda was named Spike, if I understand the post above from Freddie.

Was Barney captured at a further distance, showing his whole self? He's so vague and secretive peering in at us. Until we can say what he is... I think he's a no-show.

Jos, Eddie the Eagle sounds really familiar! Maybe a case of Great Minds Thinking Alike, for I think that was suggested for him last year! He also has not returned and therefore not gained a chorus of fans trying to call him by name!

We probably have the example-captures for each personality. No wait, the land creatures must have really good captures out there. Actually, Frank was a dove or pigeon, wasn't he? And wouldn't you know, you don't see daily vigils of pigeons any more... Did someone quit dropping crumbs out there?

Now we need the real fish names and brief commentary about them. Sarah, you out there?

I don't think Barney ever did have a picture that wasn't a close up...he kept popping his eyeballs into the cam...there was a lot of speculation about what he was..okay, I'll go back into the archives this weekend for the FINAL answer! ;-)

Hi Niki, and all.
There is no problem for the real fish names in english and latin, but I will need your help to make a brief commentary.
Here is the list of all our listed dwellers :

Damsel Fish = Charlotte
Blue Headed Wrasse = Bluebeard
Tang = Tweety
Cleaner Goby = Slim
Cooney = Jo
Surgeon Fish = Dr Pepper
Porcupine Fish = Puff
Spanish Hogfish = Picasso
Octopus = Shiva
Trumpetfish = Satchmo
Filefish = Hotlips
Jellyfish = spot
French Grunt = Napoleon
French Angelfish = Pierre
Princess Parrotfish = to be named
Spotted Eagle Ray = to be named
Stoplight Parrotfish = to be named
Tarpon = Charlie
Barracuda = Spike
???? = Barney : WHO IS BARNEY ?
Sergeant Major = to be named
Yellowtail snapper = to be named
Barjack = to be named
Squids =

PLease, check if I forgot some.
I have now crispy pics of eachone, except Slim. Then I think someone has to send one of his own, according jakes conditions exposed on this thread ref :Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 3:24 pm
Anyway folks, I can work without the names, and add them later. Perhaps you can organise a special "missing fishes names thread" during the week end :o)
Well, once again, thank you, I think this challange couldn't be possible without your cooperation pals.

Martine, I think you've got it! Well done. I wouldn't force the issue of all the unnamed fish, because it's the sort of activity which evolves from the commentators when fish are making a big presence. (Such as "making sand") You can certainly go ahead with what you have.

I'm off for a few days, bonne chance, bon travail, bonne soiree... talk to you a bientot. Get the other BTers busy writing text!

Martine. I searched and searched the archives for a crisp pic of Slim. I don't think there is one because he is always sucking on the cam, therefore to close for a crisp pic. Annie B.

Okay, for you non-believers in the Barnery fish...here is a cut and paste of the original "Barney" discussion by extraordinary bonaire talker
By Cindy Reed on Tuesday, May 7, 2002 - 8:29 am:
Does this look like our purple barney fish , the one whose eye is the only thing we see?

And more of the Barney fish...now who can i.d. his real fish name? I think this should be a contest!
By Cindy Reed on Friday, June 14, 2002 - 3:18 pm:
Looks like Barney's eye to me in 14:32.

Barbara

The 14:32 looks like Charlotte peeking at the camera to me

Well, I admit it is hard to tell who it really might be but the 5/7/02 8:04 photo doesn't look like Charlotte and it's just really not clear if the eyes match in the other two...at any rate I thought the photos might stir the memory of some of those on line back (Niki?) who might know more about the Barney fish! ;-)

P.S. Though I doubt anyone is really interested if you do a keyword search for Barney below you can see how he baffled us for a while!

hi gang, finally have a time to read this thread! my plan is to work on thier "scientific" name and behavior info so we can add that to their "profile pic."

ok martine, i have started and finished a few. i guess i could go back and translate the feet and inches to meters. i will do that when i get time. This is a working doc, and if anyone sees anything that isn't correct, PLEASE correct me! this is actually kind of cool, cause i learned more about their feeding patterns than i learned before.

reefdwell webcam species.xls (16.9 k)

hey that's pretty cool - spreadsheets that will open in the browser...good work work cynde!

(why do folks use spreadsheets as databases?)

bob, thanks...and i don't know. i was vacilating (sp, just woke up, not goona look it up) between that and word, and I figured that excel was better cause you can keep each thought in a cell...

what's reverse sex???

;)

Cyndi Lee, I can help with behavior and IDs of the fish if someone will teach me how to do it online. I love IDing fish and learning about them. I'm so computer illiterate, at times an Etch-a-Sketch seems complex. If my computer guru hadn't gone to be warm in Florida for the winter, I'm sure he could help me, but there he is in a t-shirt while I'm in 3 layers of clothes! How about a sub-page with BTer's on the cams? I'll bet everyone has their own little stash of pics of them in front of the cam. If you guys can teach this naive computer user how, I'll help.

Bob, I'd tell you what reverse sex is but Jake would probably delete it! No, it's really that when the dominant male of a pair/school dies, the dominant female becomes male. It's like these beetles I learned about in college, when a pair of them meets, the larger one gets to be the male. So then if that one meets an even bigger bug, it then is the female. Must be confusing at cocktail parties! Cynde Lee, your spreadsheet is awesome! Great idea.

Cynde,

http://www.oldbonairetalk.com/newsgroup/messages/626/webcam_species-73634.xls doesn't open a formatted document in IE 5.1.5 running in OS 9.2.2 on my Mac. Should it?? Another Mac/PC difference??

It comes up in alphanumerics scattered about, perhaps the formatting 'code'.

hi glen, hmmm...i will try to save it as something else rather than an excel file...didn't think about that one! Bookie thanks, and email is on the way to you! The sheephead is a local species in our california waters, and does the sex reverse thing too...like the parrot fish does I believe (now i am going to go have to look up more parrot info!)

ok bookie, cynde - i guess i'm not sorry i asked ;)

try publishing the spreadsheet as html?

(how tall are you? in case i need to know what to wear ;))

Hi Glen, I'm over at Bob's on his PC. Cynde's link opened up in an IE window and became a spreadsheet. I tried to open the May-June visitors file Martin made on my Mac at home a while back and saw scattered characters not a chart. But if I saved it to disk and opened it in Excel, I could see it. You could try that.

Hope you're surviving the winter weather. Come see us on Bonaire... ? Niki and Bob

Hi, Niki,

I suspect the save and open would work-- will try tomorrow. Thought Cynde's intent was for the spreadsheet to open in all IE so just telling her of the fact. Scattered characters here for me.

thanks niki and bob, i am going to try to finish it today, and will save it as another type of file...i can format it into html, maybe that would be easier for martine...duh!

Here is the final list

Charlotte OK
Picasso
Bluebeard OK
Satchmo
Tweety OK
Blue tang OK
Doc Pepper
Slim
Pierre
Hotlips
Napoleon
Jo
Charlie
Spike
Princess parrot (male)
Princess parrot (female)
Queen parrot (male)
Queen parrot (female)
Spotlight parrot (male)
Spotlight parrot (female)
Banded butterfly
four eyes butterfly
Chub
Yellowtail snapper
Puff
Sarge OK
Smooth trunkfish
Spotted trunkfish
Honeycomb cowfish
Scrawled filefish
Squid
Spot
Barjack
Anchovies school
Shiva
The reef cam

Still a lot to do :o)

Hi All,Maybe the next page can be each of us on the cam. Not that anyone can recongize us with our gear on. LOL This is nice all the fish on a link great job! I wish I had something to add. Lea Remember this?

maybe this time it will show it