By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4867) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 8:12 pm: |
As an FYI to everyone - I just sent the following message out to every major resort and tourism enterprise on Bonaire:
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By Dean Botsford (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #313) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 9:42 pm: |
Oooooooo...day-m!
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #11147) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 9:55 pm: |
Jake, thanks for posting the update...btw, no need to refund any of my money for membership if you end up going that route...it has MORE than paid for itself
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By Roderick Pervier (BonaireTalker - Post #47) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 10:22 pm: |
I certainly hope some help comes through and no refund is expected here either.
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3509) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 11:34 pm: |
Jake, if it were'nt for the WebCams Joe and I would not have rerouted from our annual Aruba gig over to Bonaire. We ended up purchasing a timeshare at the Divi our fist week on the island and have been returning since. We enjoy the heck out of Bonaire, her people and all she has to offer and we do spread our money around generously, as well, when we are on Bonaire. That is a tacky point to make, but, unfortunately it is very relevant here.
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By Rog & Karen Huff (BonaireTalker - Post #88) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 12:16 am: |
Jake and Linda,
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By Igor van Riel (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2485) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 5:03 am: |
Thx 4 the update Jake.
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By Eileen Kimmett (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #5655) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 6:29 am: |
Thank-you for updating. The webcams have done so much for so many, I have my o/w, have met many wonderful people and many have done so much for us and Quinn.
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By Olaf (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #339) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 6:51 am: |
This will be such an incredible sad thing when it comes to the point where the cams do get black forever ... I really can't understand not a single resort-management does see this state-of-the-art advertisement opportunity. This thing will pay itself back in no time ...
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By John Stigaard (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #135) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 7:30 am: |
Some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
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By Cecil Berry (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3470) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 9:25 am: |
I could not be more depressed about this. This is like a best friend telling you he has terminal cancer. I guess I knew this was coming but it does not make it any easier.
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By Cecil Berry (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3471) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 9:34 am: |
Oh, I forgot to mention, Jake keep the money. Given the pleasure I have received from the Web Cams, I figure I still owe you some money (but given my present financial state will you take an IOU).
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By DARLENE ELLIS (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1020) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:01 am: |
I read this thread with great sadness and tears in my eyes. The web cams have kept me connected to my paradise until I can get there the next time. They have brought smiles to my face in times of sadness. I feel these cams would pay for themselves in a very short time with increased customers at their resort just because the cams are there. Personally, I would love to see them at the Divi where there is an abundance of fish life all around the cement pier. As everyone else has said, it's impact on tourism is huge!!! I am sure if the cams no longer exist,there will be a significant loss in new tourism to Bonaire.
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By Lisa Amidei (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #259) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:34 am: |
I echo all the previous sentiments. The cams and board have brightened so many days for me. Made me smile (and many times laugh) when I was having a bad day. I turned to the cams (esp. the north beach) for quiet reflection when my mother died a couple weeks ago. I'm even taking an open water course next month with hopes of getting to Bonaire within a year.
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By Igor van Riel (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2488) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:50 am: |
Hmmm, I 4got 2 mention: no refund needed over here either! If no party steps forward, please have an Amstel from me 2 honor the cams...
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4870) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:56 am: |
Thanks for all your nice comments folks. Hopefully the resorts and tourism authorities on Bonaire will see them and get a better understanding of how the WebCams (or the potential lack thereof) impact Bonaire.
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By Mary Mueller (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2515) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 11:06 am: |
Jake - thanks for the update. I am with everyone else - keep the money - I do not need a refund.
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By irma (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #138) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 11:24 am: |
I do not know how to express myself in englisch about "going black of the cams", I think I also do not have the words in Dutch. But near by it are the words of Darlene Ellis.
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By Mike Wood (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #112) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 12:22 pm: |
What a crime this would be. The Cams, along with BT, are a fantastic way for all of us around the world to stay in touch with our favorite dive/vacation destination....even when we can't be there in person. The Cams are such a huge draw for both real life & internet visitors, I can't image a resort on the island wouldn't see the value in the investment. Take a portion of your marketing/advertising budget and invest in the cams, it'll be worth it!
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By mary pequinot (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #368) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 12:41 pm: |
Jake, you've worked so hard to keep this going, and I have literally incorporated this site into my life. The first time we went to Bonaire, I planned our vacation from the information received on BonaireTalk. Everything was accurate, and we had a spectacular time. Now I check it for updates, and for news for our next trip. It is so sad the tourist industry doesn't realize that sometimes a little money/energy spent results in a bigger return. You have to be able to see the forest, in spite of the trees, so to speak. I surely hope this site continues, and that you get what YOU need out of the situation, as you've given so much to all of us.
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By Denise Kacavas (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #680) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 1:06 pm: |
This is TERRIBLE!!!! But fully understandable from the cost to Jake point of view. On my very recent visit to Bonaire most everybody I met visiting there was also involved with BT. The business community will truelly be effected if they don't step up to the plate.
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4872) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 1:45 pm: |
Mary,
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By Denise Kacavas (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #681) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 1:59 pm: |
I sent the following email to the Divi Resorts. I suggest we all send a similar request to our favorite Bonaire resort and/or dive operation.
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By mary pequinot (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #369) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 2:03 pm: |
Thanks for the clarification, Jake. But I would still greatly miss checking out the cams, especially in the winter in Michigan, and because both Craig and I were on it. I know you spend a lot of time maintaining them, and it's been to everyone's benefit to see what's happening in paradise. Hope that someone in Bonaire wises up and sees what a valuable asset it could be for their business
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #11152) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 2:05 pm: |
Carole hit on something that I forgot...I didn't even know that Bonaire existed until I found the cams! I read about them in a dive mag, and decided to take a look, and see what this "Bonaire" place was all about! It was watching them addictively that got me to Bonaire the first time, and what continually draws me back...
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By Kelly Jo Lott (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1157) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 2:36 pm: |
I think it's a great idea to send emails EN MASSE to the large resorts, or the resort of your choice. I will send one to Buddy and one to Divi, I suggest everyone do the same. Maybe even cc it to the Tourism Board??? Let's get on it guys.... we need to pull together and do something for Jake. I could never ever repay Jake and Linda for all their hospitality and friendship. But I will try.
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By Brian Schoepflin (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #296) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 2:54 pm: |
There seems to be ground swell of support here. Several of us are discussing a preliminary plan/program to keep this situation viable, even if the cams have to go dark for a short interval (we hope not). I would like to personally hear from Cynde, Cecil and/or anyone else that may wish commit a bit of time, and be more involved with the process as it evolves.
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By Kelly Jo Lott (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1158) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 2:56 pm: |
Here are a few email addresses.
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #11154) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 3:03 pm: |
Brian YGM
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By Mary Mueller (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2528) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 4:16 pm: |
More email addresses:
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By Dan and Janet Himmelberg (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 5:51 pm: |
2 Lurkers right here signing on. My wife and I have watched the webcams for many months. We are making our second trip to Bonaire in July and staying at the Sand$. The webcams definitely led us to BT and keeps us coming back almost daily. Our July trip is on the same dates our local dive shop is running a charter flight/trip to Belize. One reason we decided to do our own trip to Bonaire is the many memories of our first trip the webcams kept fresh in our minds. One reason we decided to try Sand$ was the reviews provided on BT. Some lucky resort is going to make the call to host the cams and to us and many they will be the first resort we think of when we think of Bonaire.
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By Mary Mueller (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2533) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 5:58 pm: |
Dan and Janet - WELCOME to BT and thanks for signing on and expressing your views!!! I know that there are many other lurkers who are out there that feel the same way!!! Hopefully they will also sign on and post their opinion!!!!
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #11156) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 7:09 pm: |
Dan and Janet...WELCOME!!! Have a great trip! We stayed at the Sand$ our first trip in 2001, and loved the place. Got a chance to do a giant stride off the new dock a couple of times this last summer to dive Bari reef...one of my favorite all-time Bonaire dives!
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By Carl Pflanzer (BonaireTalker - Post #45) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 9:28 pm: |
A couple of weeks ago Patty and I made our 4th trip and met Jake and Linda for the first time and told them how we found Bonaire through the webcams, came back 3 more times and now own a lot on the island, to someday build our dream house there. All from the hard work of a few people, so Jake et al please know every email you answer, every moment you moderate a forum, is worth it. You never know when that question you answer on a thread will lead to a vacation, return trip, etc.
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By Greta Badstebner (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #315) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 3:12 am: |
Brian~ Count me in as a helper if you need someone. I'll see what I can do when the time comes.
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By LaDonna Pride (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1791) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 8:39 am: |
Jake....In support of the web cams I just updated my membership for the next year......I have faith, and if the worst comes to pass....I do not want ANY money back!
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By Lisa Amidei (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #268) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 9:55 am: |
LaDonna - the power of positive thinking - I'm with you, I just renewed my membership as well. Jake, I will not accept a refund of these fees if darkness is indeed our fate.
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By Barbara Leary (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #5686) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 11:32 am: |
Thanks for the very detailed update, Jake. And thanks for the links Kelly and Mary...this is a very much needed campaign! I'm on board with everyone else in declining a refund of my recently paid membership which has certainly been worth every penny!
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By Greta Badstebner (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #316) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 4:48 pm: |
Oh, and Jake, I don't want a refund either!
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By Amy Lewis (BonaireTalker - Post #15) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 6:20 pm: |
Another lurker here, just adding my 2 pennies. I haven't even been to Bonaire yet (first trip next July), but my first knowledge of the island was a link to the webcams.
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By Martine TLOUZEAU - Jean Paul GODARD (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #4954) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 3:54 am: |
Yes, we'll save the cams.
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By Michelle Swedlow (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #3) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 4:12 am: |
Hi Jake,
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4873) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 8:15 am: |
Hi Michelle,
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By Elvira M. Bolanos (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #254) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 3:40 pm: |
Hello Everyone!
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By seb schulherr (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1584) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 3:48 pm: |
Wouldn't it be nice if moving the webcam could be incorporated into making the town pier more secure for the new security regulations?
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By Carl Pflanzer (BonaireTalker - Post #46) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 4:22 pm: |
A couple of ideas for what they're worth:
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By Eric Bruckner (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #2) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 4:23 pm: |
I too come to the webcam site almost daily. I first found it a few years ago and it was the ONLY reason I tried Bonaire for a vacation. We have plans to go back this year again and we spend thousands of dollars every time we go to an island. I have also passed the site on to several friends and a few of them have been down as well because of it. This truly is a HUGELY powerful tool that ANY resort would quickly turn a profit on with increased revenues. Whichever resort decides to pick this up (and you know one will) will need to adjust for the sudden jump in reservations.
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4875) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 4:51 pm: |
Seb - Nice thought, except the Bonaire government doesn't even have the money available to secure the piers via traditional means (or will have to pull off some miracles in any case to be in compliance).
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #11167) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 5:34 pm: |
I'll donate $100.00 a year (I know, not much but hey)...I don't have the time to organize a pledge drive, but I'm willing to commit
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By Carl Pflanzer (BonaireTalker - Post #48) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 5:55 pm: |
Thanks for the positive response Jake - I certainly can offer some time to help the cause, but what would it involve?
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4877) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 6:09 pm: |
Cynde - thanks! Let's all hope some business on Bonaire comes through for the whole amount and that individual donations won't be needed (or could be applied to adding new cameras at places like the windsurf area at Sorobon!)
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #11176) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 6:15 pm: |
Jake, would emails to the resorts stating that some are willing to contribute to the costs if they house the cams a good idea? Just wonder if that would get their attention if they didn't think they would have to foot the entire bill...
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4878) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 6:26 pm: |
Cynde - you're a sweetheart.
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By seb schulherr (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1589) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 9:24 pm: |
Well heck, if they'd let you put it at Sorobon, you could charge folks to look at the cam and it would pay for itself ;)
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #11189) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 9:33 pm: |
Seb...[grin]
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By Cecil Berry (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3476) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 9:54 pm: |
Of course, I was thinking the Plaza and their beach when the KLM flight attendants are in. You could lose your G rating, hubba, hubba.
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By Carl Pflanzer (BonaireTalker - Post #49) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 9:05 am: |
Now we're brainstorming; overwhelmed but brainstorming. :-) Another idea is a pay-to-play fee. For a nominal annual fee, say $20, members get the webcams with a username and password. The math is easy for either donations or paid members - at the $20 level, 250 donors/members are needed. At the $50 level, 100 donors/members are needed. At the $100 level, 50. IMHO, I think we should decide on the location and raise the $5100 for the next year, and I am happy to coordinate the program for next year, if asked. With thousands of contributors/lurkers, can we find 250 people to give $20? I hope so...:-)
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4881) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 9:10 am: |
Carl,
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By seb schulherr (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1590) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 9:47 am: |
I think Carl means Tanstaaffl Jake, as in no more free lunch, you want to watch, you pay up. Maybe archives only for members, and only presently displayed picture free to view.
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By Linda Stoltzfus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #228) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 12:51 pm: |
Wow, I spend a few days with the new grandbaby and miss a VERY important topic. Count on me to email Jack at Capt. Don's (and other resorts) and provide any and all support to keep the cams. When the time comes, I will also make (and give) a pledge. BT'ers to the rescue!
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By Carl Pflanzer (BonaireTalker - Post #50) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 1:37 pm: |
Yes, Seb, you're right... it sounds a bit harsh, but depends on your perspective I suppose. Call it incentive to join, incentive to donate, no more free lunch, etc. Just another idea. In many of the more successful fundraising efforts in the States, a gift is offered for the contribution - I continually get t shirts, mugs, etc from the humane society, even though I ask for no gifts on the donation form I return. That 'gift' could be in the form of access to certain parts of the webcams, a promotional item, discount coupon for a restaurant or services on the island, etc. Heck, I'd love to get a subscription to Bonaire Reporter for a $50 or $75 contribution!
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3520) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 4:40 pm: |
The problem with "pay to view" the cams would be the "prosepective"/future Bonaire traveler...they aren't going to pay up front to look at cam pics to determine if they want to visit Bonaire. Just IMHO, however.
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3521) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 4:43 pm: |
Jake, Joe and I will be on Bonaire June 20, as will several others...."if" dooms day is forced upon us with the cams shutting down (even if only temporarily) could we organize a group to be at the cams for the finale'??? Just a thought.....I have a feeling we will all be there anyway if this does occur, but the timing would be the key to a "group hug" scenario. Carole
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4882) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 4:46 pm: |
Carole,
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3522) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 4:56 pm: |
Fabulous! We'll all keep our fingers and toes crossed. I'm about to bombard some more places right now with emails. They will succumb to us just to stop the bombardment! Sort of like what we did with Cultimara years back with our "No Plastic Bags" campaign of emails! They soon realized the power of BT! LOL.
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By Wally and Eva (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #310) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 5:35 pm: |
Carole....Is jumping in front of the cams sorta like sitting in front of the bulldozers?
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3527) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 5:48 pm: |
I guess you could liken it to that! LOL. I think we all need a group hug in front of the cams on June 20....either way it goes for us. We will lay our bodies down in front of the moving van and won't permit the cams to be unplugged! LOL. Carole
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4883) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 7:30 pm: |
June 20th is:
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4887) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 7:45 pm: |
And thanks for the offer to help move - if you have nothing better to do on June 23rd or so, let us know. We support our "movers" with beer and pizza (at the very least) ;-)
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #11200) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 7:54 pm: |
Jake, wow...Yana's b-day (10, right?)...Father's day (thanks for the reminder)...and your Bonaire anniversary...brings tears to my eyes...I think we all best really get on this "moving the cams" thing and get a resort to COMMIT!!!! I'm going to send another round of emails!
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4889) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 8:00 pm: |
She'll be 9 - a tweener - eek!
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #11201) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 8:47 pm: |
9...they do grow up fast
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3528) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 10:52 pm: |
Sounds like a plan for the 23rd, Jake. We will have a truck for this trip so it might hold a little more than the RAV 4 of last.
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3530) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 10:56 pm: |
I sent out nine more emails to the resorts today....keep them flowing! Carole
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By Carl Pflanzer (BonaireTalker - Post #53) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 11:40 pm: |
I think Cynde deserves a round of applause for making the first pledge of $100. I will match that with our $200 (Patty and myself $100 each).
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By Olaf (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #342) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 4:36 am: |
Wow .. this thread has certainly gone wild ..
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By Eileen Kimmett (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #5683) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 6:32 am: |
I (and Joel) will be more than happy to pledge $$ to keep cams going.
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By Wally and Eva (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #311) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 8:46 am: |
I think the pledge drive is an excellent idea. Eva and I are in for $100 each.
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By Carl Pflanzer (BonaireTalker - Post #54) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 10:59 am: |
Wally and Eva-
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By Wally and Eva (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #313) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 11:26 am: |
We should let you or Cynde create and kick off the "No Talk Just Pledge" thread.
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4890) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 11:52 am: |
Wally,
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By Greta Badstebner (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #324) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 11:53 am: |
The hardest part is finding a new home for the cams!
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3535) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 12:11 pm: |
Joe and I are ready whichever way it must be handled....we're "in" 100% and more. Commitment from us is automatic. Great suggestions, guys. We WILL survive!! Carole and Joe
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4891) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 12:28 pm: |
Olaf,
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #11205) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 2:11 pm: |
OK, per Wally's idea, I've started a "No Talk Just Commit: Save the Cams!" thread
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By Wally and Eva (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #315) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 6:13 pm: |
Working on the basic cabinet Jake. I will build the new webcam equipment home out of non-linear Pvc foam cored fiberglass panels and will adapt a dorm refrigerator coil/condensor for self-contained cool dry operations.
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3547) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 6:39 pm: |
This sounds great, Wally...what a terrific contribution to the "cause"! Thanks! Carole
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3549) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 6:53 pm: |
We have a small theater here in Morristown, NJ which was built back in the 1930's I believe...it was run into the ground with neglect, etc. A few years back a group of folks from this area bought the theater and raised monies via contributions and had the place refurbished back to its original glory and now it is a showcase for top name artists. Joe and I pledge to them every single season and we enjoy the heck out of the events they now have, too. It felt great to watch the rebirth of this glorious old movie theatre blossom into a showcase for the Arts. It is still a non-profit operation and the ticket sales do not cover all of their expenses to operate the theatre, thus our continuous support of this wonderful place....The Community Theatre. Only holds 1100 seats and it is fabulous for concerts and stage events of all sorts. It was slated for demolition when we all came to its rescue.
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By Wally and Eva (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #316) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 8:41 pm: |
Way to go Carol.....this is this month of weekends project. In between watching the races. Sextagonal gazebo with fire pit. Will use a cast iron syrup kettle for the dome above the smoke hole.
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3565) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 10:48 pm: |
Looks, great! You are definitely handy to have around the house. Good luck on the project and have fun using it a lot. Carole
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3566) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 10:52 pm: |
Wasn't that a great NASCAR race today??!! Love good ones. Way to go, Jimmie Johnson!! Leading 501 miles out of 600 is quite an accomplishment. Great race. Too bad the Indie race had rain all day...hate to see a race end that way. Carole
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By Olaf (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #344) on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 4:17 am: |
Jake ..
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #11208) on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 2:38 pm: |
Olaf, NONE of us understand the lack of interest from the resorts...do we have to beat them over the head with a stick?
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By Linnea Wijkhof-Wimberly (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #701) on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 3:30 pm: |
Maybe Michael Gaynor would allow the street cam to be set up inside with the camera pointing out through the window on a temporary basis until a permanent home could be found. Most BT people stop by Chat n' Browse and/or Lover's Ice Cream at least once during a visit to Bonaire.
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3576) on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 5:05 pm: |
Sounds like a great idea, to me, too! I know Michael would love to be posing with lots of folks who come by for cell phones and gifts and just to gab a bit! Carole
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4898) on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 5:06 pm: |
We can't split the Cams up Linnea. We've had a number of offers for just taking the StreetCam (not paying any costs though). The way our technology works, at present everything connects through a single server.
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By Linnea Wijkhof-Wimberly (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #702) on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 7:51 pm: |
I was thinking that Michael could host the street cam until all of the cameras found a permanent home as a "family".
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4899) on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 11:27 pm: |
Linnea, that is just not an option.
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By Linda Richter - NetTech (Moderator - Post #1838) on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 - 9:34 am: |
I thought about this overnight since it hit me badly too for lots of reasons. But probably the most compelling is that if we temped out the StreetCam, I believe it would be the death knell of the ReefCam and the BeachCams. All pressure to find a suitable home would be removed. As time lengthened and no home was found, the usual apathy would take over again. Some talk but no action. The ReefCam and BeachCams would never be resurrected. No more fish, divers, sunsets and sailboats. No more checking in on a snowy winter’s day to refresh yourself with the turquoise waters under the sun.
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By Denise Kacavas (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #714) on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 - 9:55 am: |
I am sure Linnea's thought was well intentioned, and you, Jake and Linda, are absolutely correct. Any business that wants to take advantage of the cams as a marketing tool by hosting the web cams already recognizes what this can do for their business and needs to make a financial committment as well. The pay back on their investment is obvious. Linda, your comments regarding the death knell hit my heart hard, especially the reference to checking in on a snowy winter's day - reality here in Maine.... Denise
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By Michael Gaunt (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #590) on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 - 11:38 am: |
Wow.... once again, I step away from the webcams for a few busy weeks of work and everything comes crashing down. I sincerely hope someone on the island will consider buying in as a partner to the cams. The webcam page has been my computer's default home page since very shortly after they went online.
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By Carl Pflanzer (BonaireTalker - Post #63) on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 - 8:52 am: |
Jake -
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4904) on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 - 6:25 pm: |
Nothing remote firm yet Carl. Another inquiry but nothing more than that. Folks claim they are reviewing their situations. We've heard a lot of that over the last few months. Maybe this time, with this newer set of interested parties, it will be different.
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By Olaf (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #349) on Thursday, June 3, 2004 - 12:10 am: |
Jake .. I just sincerely hope things will work out very very soon this final round ..
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4907) on Thursday, June 3, 2004 - 8:41 am: |
I got back to Bonaire a day early (yesterday instead of today). First phone call was from an interested party wanting to meet tomorrow. So... Let's see what happens...
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By Igor van Riel (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2502) on Thursday, June 3, 2004 - 8:53 am: |
Got all my fingers and toes crossed.....
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By Elvira M. Bolanos (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #266) on Thursday, June 3, 2004 - 9:05 am: |
Jake, good luck with the meeting tomorrow and like Igor I've got all fingers and toes crossed.
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By Sue Ryan Goodman (BonaireTalker - Post #46) on Thursday, June 3, 2004 - 12:11 pm: |
go get 'em Jake - as a financial person, this seems like a no-brainer to me. The incremental business that the cams would generate should more than offset the annual operating costs. This should be a very easy justification to a resort. $6500 divided by $200/night = 33 nights < 5 weeks - not a stretch to think you might get 5 additional guests who want to say they stayed at the "Home of the Reef Cam"...
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3587) on Thursday, June 3, 2004 - 8:46 pm: |
Go get 'em, pardner!!! Good luck. Keep us posted....I hope it's the Divi! LOL. Carole
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By Meryl Virga (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #4075) on Friday, June 4, 2004 - 2:31 pm: |
Sign us up for a 100 dollars a year...money well spent....
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By Fiona Rattray (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #239) on Friday, June 4, 2004 - 4:05 pm: |
More e-mails sent. As a business owner, this is just such a win-win situation. All vibes for a successful outcome and a new home for this national treasure.
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By Denise Kacavas (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #723) on Monday, June 7, 2004 - 10:56 am: |
Hi Jake, any thing to report as to an update on status ? ? ?
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