By Dennis Wightman (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #122) on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 6:17 pm: |
First, thanks Sean for your vigilance and the recent Youtube-we have to prevent Freewinds damage. Are we at risk for Pfiesteria or other toxic algal bloom from either sewage or other runoff or an imbalance caused by the high ammonia dumps? Since toxic algae would kill fish and endanger humans as well is this another issue? Can the water and fish be tested? Are there any lesions on fish being noticed? It doesn't take much to cause an imbalance in the ecology so with all our lack of control over these pollutants awareness of these types of toxins should, we hope, increase.
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By Jerry C Ligon (BonaireTalker - Post #33) on Tuesday, August 4, 2009 - 8:00 pm: |
Dennis: You seem to be a bit behind. Let me try to catch you up. Read Update on Moray Mortality at bottom of this topic page and also, another blog of mine, http://www.oldbonairetalk.com/newsgroup/messages/366674/387059.html?1233419426
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By Jerry C Ligon (BonaireTalker - Post #34) on Tuesday, August 4, 2009 - 8:07 pm: |
also Dennis, this before the moray mortality discovery. Sort of a premonition
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By Dennis Wightman (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #123) on Tuesday, August 4, 2009 - 9:21 pm: |
Jerry-is the red algae you refer to the same species as the "red tide" algae in the Gulf of Mexico? There it aerolizes and becomes a respiratory and skin irritant and causes fish kills-I haven't seen any fish kills on Bonaire...
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By Jerry C Ligon (BonaireTalker - Post #35) on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 - 7:03 am: |
Dennis: Algal blooms (Red Tides)info on Wikipedia
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By Marcus L. Barnes (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1144) on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 - 7:58 am: |
What's the latest on sewage trucking and the temporary sewage treatment capability?
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By JOBY (BonaireTalker - Post #69) on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 - 12:55 pm: |
I wonder if someone can give me some more information here?
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By Pauline Kayes (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #195) on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 - 5:21 pm: |
Although I sympathize with Jerry's pessimism, it is possible for us all to make a difference by writing to the Dutch transition folks and telling them what you are seeing on Bonaire's reefs. (for their names, see this week's Reporter www.bonairereporter.com.) Also check out my column this week, "Sewage Dreams," in the same issue.
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By Jerry C Ligon (BonaireTalker - Post #37) on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 - 6:40 pm: |
Pauline: Before Stinapa can be accused of not enforcing or looking the other way, there has to be regulations, and there just aren't any to deal with the sewage. It is not illegal to dump poo onto the reef, just individual hotel and dive shop managers' conscience and knowledge of what the effects will be.
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #536) on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 - 7:29 pm: |
I guess I don't understand. STINAPA has regulations it has made, such as no gloves. Why can it not make regulations against sewage? The science showing sewage is a problem is far more extensive and compelling than the science against gloves.
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By Just little ole me with a (*) (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #5932) on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 - 10:32 pm: |
Gloves don't make sewage..but they are a hazard to the reef..
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By Glen Reem (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3062) on Thursday, August 6, 2009 - 1:04 am: |
I believe I understand Mel's point as that gloves (or divers with gloves) and sewage both cause damage to the reef.
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2370) on Thursday, August 6, 2009 - 6:21 am: |
Pauline. Thanks for your article & also suggestion for writing to the Regional Service Center (RSC).
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By JOBY (BonaireTalker - Post #71) on Thursday, August 6, 2009 - 12:32 pm: |
I guess the lack of an answer tells me that either the research that has been done on Bonaire does not prove that sewage is causing damage, or that no results ever get published.
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By Jerry C Ligon (BonaireTalker - Post #38) on Thursday, August 6, 2009 - 1:10 pm: |
Joby: I am also waiting for any new results from the LMSP. Supposedly, during the summer, the professors have more time to input new results. THe volunteers have been downloading the data from the sites, they have been keeping the sensor pads clean of algae build-up and CIEE has been sending the data to the U of Cal professors. Everyone is waiting. For the latest that I have, visit the STINAPA website: http://www.bmp.org/lightandmotion.html
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2371) on Thursday, August 6, 2009 - 3:54 pm: |
I certainly agree should be interesting to see the latest data generated from the LMSP program. Jerry please let us know when this comes in.
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By Pauline Kayes (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #197) on Thursday, August 6, 2009 - 4:57 pm: |
Joby, Two years ago, Brian La Pointe, marine biologist from Florida and an expert in nutrient pollution, spent 4 days here explaining results of testing that had been done and toured the island pointing out algae evidence of nutrient pollution from wastewater and sewage. At that time, he declared Bonaire's reefs were "at the point of no return," mostly because of wastewater pollution (i.e. sewage and run-off)
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By JOBY (BonaireTalker - Post #73) on Friday, August 7, 2009 - 10:57 am: |
It would be nice to see the more recent test results from LMSP - that should settle the issue and stop it from being just opinion. the sooner the sewage treatment gets underway, obviously the better anyway.
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By Mel Briscoe (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #537) on Friday, August 7, 2009 - 11:39 am: |
JOBY, do you have any evidence that your speculation is based on anything valid? ("No" would be the right answer.) Why, for example, would you even bring up "fine dust/sand" since the problem is nutrient enrichment, not passive sediment? The science is clear, there is no argument. The politics are clear, there is no argument. The problem is that the science and the politics yield different solutions, and politics always trumps.
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By Pauline Kayes (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #198) on Friday, August 7, 2009 - 4:46 pm: |
Mel, Wonderful analysis! Let's just hope that someone in the political world sees that Bonaire's tourist economy is perched on a precipice because of the sewage and that without IMMEDIATE trucking and treatment, the Netherlands will be signing on for an island with little means of bringing in money.
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By Bob Davison (BonaireTalker - Post #77) on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 1:10 pm: |
STINAPA - no gloves policy is "helping" preserve the reef.
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By Krispi **** (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #7328) on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 1:41 pm: |
I am sorry, gloves DO NOT hurt the reef any more than GUNS kill..
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2441) on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 6:50 pm: |
[It is people that do the damage!]
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By Bob Davison (BonaireTalker - Post #78) on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 9:32 am: |
Exactly my point guys. STINAPA and others make diving with gloves a felony but ignore the obvious damage done by Mother Nature (Omar, Lenny) and they make little or no effort to impact the MOST PREVENTABLE destruction caused by the sewage discharge problem.
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By Tom Reynolds (BonaireTalker - Post #26) on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 11:13 am: |
First, let me say that LMSP is an UNFUNDED program. All the monies for the sensors were from donations-mostly divers. Second, neither the divers servicing the sensors nor the scientists evaluating the data have been paid a dime. Third, BNMP, dispite a limited budget, has supported LMSP with funds and SIGNIFICENT effort to make the program work.
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