I have heard from a few different people that a girl went missing friday night. Does anyone have any more information?

A young Dutch women of 24 is missing since Friday.
The Amigoe writes it looks like a kidnapping. Somebody saw how she was pulled of her bike on to a motorbike
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_47133.php

The radio stations are calling for help and infomation very frequently.

A plane and a boat of the Dutch Navy are searching since yesterday.

Well, my Dutch lessons seem to be paying off. Rough translation of the article:

Police have started a big search for 24-year-old Marlies Elizabeth van der Kouwe. She was pulled from her bike at 2:30 AM Saturday night/Sunday morning by a man who took her away on a dark colored motorcycle

The man was wearing dark clothes and was between 170cm and 180cm tall. This happened on Kaya Gobernador Debrot by the WEB installation. He disappeared to the east.

Police Chief John Schagen said this in a Monday evening press conference with Governor Herbert Domacasse and Justice officer David van Delft.

The search is being assisted by the Netherlands Antilles Coast Guard, who are providing aircraft to assist in the search. The plane flew search missions Monday evening and Tuesday morning.

Schagen has enlisted the help of the Netherlands Antilles RST (not sure ... I think that's a search and rescue team). "The team will search the whole day through", he said.

Van der Kouwe was born in Curacao in 1984. She is 5'4", blonde, with blue eyes. Her parents were informed yesterday evening (Netherlands time).

Anyone that saw anything should call 717-8555 or 911.

:-p or you could just switch the page into English.
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_47150.php

It took them longer to translate it than it took me ... I'm lazy enough to go looking for an English version before producing a written translation. That wasn't there last night.

That is horrible news. Please keep us updated on this story. As a father of two young women, I can only imagine the angst her parents must be feeling right now. Prayers out.

Thoughts for her family. I'm with Jim, just sickening. I am surprised there hasn't been more of a response here about this. I did a search for her name, and there are a lot of fora that are discussing the case/issue. If it were an American girl would more BTers respond?

By some articles translated they say she was at Karel's till it closed, then headed home. It says she was a "trainee" on Bonaire, so she was working somewhere, not a visitor. This is very frightening for all of us as nothing like this has ever happened on Bonaire. When we tell posters it's safe for a teen or woman, maybe not so anymore?

those on island, please keep us posted. I truly hope they find her...it's such a small island surely someone knows something....sad...tragic...

Some information, just heard on local radio-station.
Up to yet nothing found or heard of the woman. The scooter she was kidnapped on, as well as her flip-flops were found.
In the press is stated she was a trainee in the local Botika (Pharmacy), the owner of the Botika said she was a Pharmacy-assistant with certificates and had a job there.
She was born on Curacao, and has lived there as well as in the Netherlands. She was on Bonaire for about one month. Her father was a general practitioner on Bonaire, many years ago.
It happened near the office of Curoil, opposite of the WEB-plant (Hato), around 2 am in the night of Saturday on Sunday. The guards on the WEB-plant heard screams, but couldn't go for help, because the gate was closed, they saw one person, with a black coat, long sleeves, they shouted at him, and he drove away with the woman on a scooter. The scooter was found and appeared to be stolen.
Now a very bad part of the story, the guards called the police, and they are supposed to have answered that there was no occupation enough on the police-station at that very moment. They arrived on site hours later. The scooter and slippers were found and taken with them; and the missing of the woman was just related to the report of the WEB-guards and the scooter and shoes one-and-a-half day later, on monday-morning, when friends were missing her, and she didn't appear in the Botika. To be honest, this is one of the stories on radio, I cannot state how true the story is. Police is busy analysing what has really happened that night with regard to the police-reaction and the days after. As I have some experience with police-reactions, I wouldn't be surprised. I heard the command on this operation has been taken over by the Dutch.
Lots of speculations too, also about an ex-boyfriend, who lives in the Netherlands. Police got help of 10's of detectives (numbers change from hour to hour) from the Netherlands and Curacao. Planes with ultra-sensitive iR-equipment are flying over the island, the coast-guard sails around the island, the chopper that is here for transport of injured people to Curacao could also be used, but has a malfunction. Other choppers (probably from Dutch Coast-Guard) are called for.
They also do massive search on the island, and supposedly house-to-house searches too.
There are not much people living on Bonaire, but it is a relatively big island with lots of uninhabited and inaccessible parts.
The parents arrived on Bonaire, yesterday or so.

Terrible story, bad for the island, I hope she will be found alive, but the chances to find her are alive getting smaller every hour......

Harrie

I read about this in the Amigoe. Prayers and best wishes that they find her safe and sound. Very upsetting news whether it is Bonaire or any other place in the world.

I hope they find her ok.

I'm having a hard time understanding how you can be taken away on a scooter? If you're in the back...just get off. If you're in the front turn the key off... force a crash... too many ways to do something.

Thanks Harrie.

Ken.. I had the exact same observation. Something doesn't seem to add up here.

Harry, regarding the (lack of) initial action by the police, see this article. I know it's in Dutch, but for the non-Dutch BT-ers a raw translation can be found here.

Please let us try to wait with our own conclusions until there is more official news and PLEASE don't jump to conclusions. (JM2C)...

Martin, you are the voice of reason. I agree. Let's all hope for her safety and concentrate on positive vibes for her and her family during this time.

my prayers are with her and her family. what a terrible ordeal to go through.
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Martin,
I think the details in my report were not in contradiction with the article. And again an investigation necessary is so sad, And I didn't make any conclusion at all. I repeat: "To be honest, this is one of the stories on radio, I cannot state how true the story is."

BTW, While the dutch version speaks about one-and-a-half day delay, the American version speaks about half-a-day. Things in US always go faster...... (meant as a joke)


And for all the private-investigators under us: yes everybody is wondering how he transported the girl on a scooter, even over a sandy road, (tyre=-prints were found). From the statements of the WEB-guards it could be she was unconscious.

Harrie

Ann we need to see the police report before you can post this..or please let the moderators know which police report to look at, thanks

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(Message edited by modfreddie on September 25, 2008)

We join our prayers for Marlies to be found as soon as possible. Certainly, all those living on the island, as well as Bonerians living far away (but still connected emotionally to Bonaire), are holding our collective breaths and wishing for a positive outcome.

As was the case with Natalee Holloway in Aruba, it doesn't matter that the person responsible for her disappearance turns out to be a foreigner or not, there will be fingers pointed to what went wrong and not what went right.
I just think that the people of Bonaire deserve better than that, and I hope that everybody will keep this in mind as the search goes on.

Please pray for Marlies and her parents as well as for those participating in the search.

The latest news is that they've captured a man, who might be responsible for this. At the moment they're searching the Tera Cora bario, in cars and everything....
Also yesterday an 8 year old girl was kidnapped, luckily she could escape herself and that guy is arrested as well....

The 8 year old was alone on the street at 11pm .... the details of that case could end up as something of a family story.

The police chef (still quite new on Bonaire) gave a press conference, it is in the Amigoe.
Looks like the web security staff informed the police about a screming woman taken away by a guy on a scooter, a police car came some time later ... and they did nothing , did not even inform the police corps about it till Monday morning. The police chef was only informed late Monday morning when the lady was reported missing.
The chef of police promised an investigation.

This is in the Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/printer_47203.php

Amigoe English
Marlies van der Kouwe still missing
24 Sep, 2008, 10:15 (GMT -04:00)




KRALENDIJK – “We are doing everything possible to find her and solve the case. We are working very hard on this case. There are 50 people on this case”, says Chief of Police John Schagen about the kidnapping of the 24-year old apprentice Marlies van der Kouwe, who was abducted in the Hato area near the WEB-installations in the night of Saturday to Sunday.

The investigation continues on Tuesday. The coastguard continues the investigation with boats and an airplane. Many police officers were put in the search action. Search groups were formed and search areas were closed off in northern direction where the kidnapper disappeared. It is a large area towards Rincon. Also the RST detectives, technical detectives and specialists of the KLPD, the Dutch Forensic Institute (NFI), and experts of other islands were asked for assistance. Schagen remains optimistic that Marlies is still alive.

People can call the tip-line 717-7251 anonymously with information on the disappearance of Marlies van Kouwen. “We are working on this case with a Team Large-Scale Investigation (TGO) which works with fixed procedures and software and in certain level of thinking and handling. We are interrogating witnesses and we are investigating each tip we receive."

Marlies is known among friends as a quite and calm girl. She was born in Curaçao in 1984 when her parents lived in Bonaire. Her father, Jan-Willem van der Kouwe, was a governmentc physician in the doctors’ clinic of Nort´i Saliña from 1983 till 1986. On the 30th of August Marlies arrived on Bonaire. After a week's holiday, she started working as a pharmacist's assistant at Botica Bonaire at the Kaya Grandi. The first days after her arrival she moved into an apartment in Kralendijk in the vicinty of Kaya Hulanda. Friend of family Van der Kouwe then found a better apartment with airconditioning for her. This apartment is situated in Hato where she cycles to on the night of Saturday to Sunday. She was abducted when she was almost home. Last week she had written herself in at the registry office. Marlies worked on Saturday until two o'clock in the afternoon. On Sunday she was off and on Monday she had to start at twelve o'clock. On that Saturday evening she went out to Karels Beach Bar with friends. According to De Telegraaf, she hadn’t consumed alcohol that night. Her father would have already arrived on the island. More media in the Netherlands are reporting the disappearance case.

Our thoughts and hearts are with the family.

Also, please, only post information that can be backed up by something. We do not want hearsay or speculation to become rampant. (Yes, myself included.)


(Message edited by cyndelee on September 25, 2008)

My prayers to this lovely young woman and her family. Out of respect for her and the safety of this investigation I concur with your last statement Cynde:

"Also, please, only post information that can be backed up by something. We do not want hearsay or speculation to become rampant."

That to me only includes police statements since this is a crime. This is the policy of BT.

In the e-mail newspaper of Radio Nederland (in Dutch) they say that one man was captured. He lives in Kralendijk , works at the Plaza since his release from prison a few months ago , where he was for 8 years for sexual assault.
The police searched 2 houses in Terra Cora

http://www.wereldomroep.nl/news/domestic/5981250-Aanhouding-Bonaire


The article of the Amigoe I mentioned about internal investigation of the police because of the very late action taken is still not in English available
Here the Dutch version http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_47223.php


(Message edited by CocoPalmGarden on September 26, 2008)

Brigitte, thanks for the links.

Harry, I was talking in general and I was just informing you re the actions our Government is taking. There is an update, Google did the translation.

There are many, many people on BT, that have warm feelings for Bonaire. If something terrible happens on the island, they want to get as much information as possible.
As usual in cases, when investigation is still on the way, police is not very generous in giving the information. That is here, in Europa and in USA also. I think traditionally the police on Bonaire is even more restrained.
Meanwhile, there is lot of information available, on the island, from local newspapers, from local radio-stations, from local TV-station and also from real "hearsay". I wanted to pass this information by to the readers of BT, to satisfy the curiosity of the BT'ers. I was clear in telling that it came from radio, so no police-statements.

quote: << Also, please, only post information that can be backed up by something. We do not want hearsay or speculation to become rampant."
That to me only includes police statements since this is a crime. This is the policy of BT. >>

This means it is not allowed to post any information on BT, while there is a lot of information available, for those curious on what has happened on "Dushi-Bonairu".

I have had this discussion before with the BT-moderators, who kicked me off impolitely, in the middle of the discussion. I received a lot of reactions through private-mail after that.

I think providing "hearsay"-information on this board should be acceptable, if you clearly say it is hearsay or still under investigation. As I did. I also think that the average BT-user is intelligent enough to see the value of the provided information.

This is indeed a crime, and it is terrible what happened, terrible for the young woman and her family, but also terrible for the island and the people on the island.
I think the police is doing a real good job in this case, you see a lot of activity, and I hope they can solve the case soon, and Marlies will come out alive.......

Something else is the part about the late reaction of the police in this case. The new chief promised an investigation on that part. We all know that these investigations mostly are done to cover eventually made mistakes. I hope mr. Schagen does a better job in this case(he is new here). As we also know the police-department has a bad reputation upon the reaction on cases. I reported here before about that (the dogs that bit my wife, half-a-year ago). I filed a complaint, I needed to pass so many doors to get it filed and there was absolutely nothing visible done with the complaint. (I didn't hear anything, didn't even get a reaction). Perhaps one thing happened: when I had a "panic"-alarm in my alarm system, some weeks later, the security-company showed up, but the police (as they were supposed and agreed to do) never showed up. Investigation why not, didn't give any clear reason. That is your fate, if you make a complaint to the police-force. This is also one of the reasons local people don't want to file a complaint, family-reasons, or it works against you. May I say this frightens me?
There are oh so many things happening on the island (yes, hear-say) that need to be investigated. Again there is the horrible story (on radio again yesterday) of groups of teenagers that rape fellow-students on school). This happened already several times and we know the culprits are still walking around, and will do it again another time. YES, HEARSAY, but so much information on this point, it must be true. Parents don't go for a file at the police-station, for divers reasons.
Nothing is done, everybody knows it happens. Terrible.
And believe me, lots of more things happening here that are covered under a cover of "don't let tourists know what is going on here".
Why is it not allowed to post on these things on this board, to try to get the opinion on these things happening on "3rd World"-Bonaire in a broader perspective?

Again I think it is necessary to think about the BT-policy on these points. These things are of major importance for Bonaire, now, and in the future, when these youngsters grow up to criminals, because nothing happens when you do a thing that is forbidden by law?

BTW, Moderators, thank you for leaving my posts above alive.....

Harrie

Martin, the link didn't work, but hdere is the (rough) text of the translated article:


WILLEM CITY / KRALENDIJK - The convicted drug dealer Wout of Kouwen half million would ransoms were demanded for the release of Marlies van der Kouw. WILLEM CITY / KRALENDIJK - The convicted drug dealer Wout of Kouwen half million would ransoms were demanded for the release of Marlies van der Kouw. That Telegraaf reported. That Telegraaf reported.

"We have your daughter and you see her back only if you pay half million, said a person with distorted voice," says Van Kouwen in the newspaper. "We have your daughter and you see her back only if you pay half million, said someone met twisted steel," says Van Kouwen in the newspaper.

However, he Marlies van der Kouw not know. However, he Marlies van der Kouw not know. Even he can not imagine that there are people who support him and his family to sit. Even he can not imagine that there are people who support him and his family to sit.

De Telegraaf has been on the police informed of the requirement. De Telegraaf has been on the police informed of the EIS.

Daughter Daughter

The AD reported this morning that Bonaire on Wednesday an attempt was made the 8-year-old daughter of Van Kouwen to abduct. The AD reported on Wednesday morning that Bonaire is an attempt at the 8-year-old daughter of Van Kouwen to abduct. However, this failed. However, this failed.

Of a Kouwen also has 17-year-old daughter who worked in the pub where Marlies just before her abduction was present. Of a Kouwen also has 17-year-old daughter who worked in the pub where Marlies just before her abduction was present. According to the AD is Marlies possible by the kidnappers since the daughter of Wout of Kouwen. According to the AD is Marlies possible by the kidnappers since the daughter of Wout of Kouwen.

The wife of Kouwen Wout has sought security for her family. The wife of Kouwen Wout has sought security for her family.

Scooter Scooter

During the night of Thursday to Friday, the authorities found the scooter on Bonaire which the suspect in the kidnapping of the Dutch Marlies van der Kouw would have taken. During the night of Thursday to Friday, the authorities found the scooter on Bonaire which the suspect in the kidnapping of the Dutch Marlies van der Kouw would have taken.

The scooter, with muddy tires, was found at the home of the grandmother of the suspect. The scooter, with muddy tires, was found at the home of the grandmother of the suspect. Then, the garden around the house closer explored. Then, the garden around the house closer explored.

Messages that morning local magazines. Messages that morning local magazines. The front page of Extra, the largest Papiamento-language newspaper, shows a photograph of agents to see during their nocturnal research. The front page of Extra, the largest Papiamento-language newspaper, shows a photograph of agents to see during their nocturnal research.

House House

The newspaper cab late photographs of the house of the suspect, and employees of the Dutch Forensic Institute who are working. The newspaper late vigilante pictures of the house of the suspect, and employees of the Dutch Forensic Institute who are working. The suspect was five o'clock Thursday afternoon (local time) held. The suspect was five o'clock Thursday afternoon (local time) held.

The authorities wanted that day only confirm arrest of a man, without providing further details. The authorities wanted that day only confirm arrest of a man, without providing further details.

The local media can be seen that the RP is a man of Bonaire since two to three months of free feet. The local media can be seen that the RP is a man of Bonaire since two to three months of free feet. He was an imprisonment of eight years because of rape. He was an imprisonment of eight years because of rape.

=== End of Google-translation ====


Sorry for the bad trranslation, but it gives at least an idea what is in the dutch version.

This means that Marlies was kidnapped to get half-a-million ransom from the father of another young woman (17 yr old), that works at Karel's Beachbar.
That person has nearly the same name as Marlies, and her father is supposed to be a convicted drugsdealer.
The kidnapped 8 yr old is also a daughter of this father, but this girl escaped.

Wow! heavy

See what comes out.....

Harrie

Thanks Harrie, good stuff. I hope and pray that she comes home safe. Bonaire does not need a NH.

Harrie, I do not agree that a board like BT is the correct podium to discuss hearsay issues and I think the BT policy is correct on this. The majority of posters on BT are NOT Bonaire residents but are VERY passionate about our beautiful island. This is a great thing in many many ways but when it comes to crime issues and sometimes other issues that are not tourism related but close to peoples hearts the discussions tend to go out of hand. This has happened a lot in the past. Passionate people on a sensitive subject with a lack of first hand information is a sure recipe for 'disaster discussions' IMHO.

BT is being used a lot by new Bonaire visitors for information and is a great source....in my view the best. To distort the valuable information with hefty discussions on crime and personal issues in my opinion takes away from the value and beauty of BT.

Just my two cents.

Bas you are correct, and you can also bet that this thread is being watched very closely.

Harrie, thanks. I think you, and Ann misunderstood my statement. Posts of news articles, or information that was publicised on Bonaire radio are not "hearsay" in my opinion, it is information that Bonaire lovers are looking for.

What I meant by hearsay is that "i heard that, blah blah blah" without a news article, or source/reference.

And yes, if it is a post about a crime that happened to someone, i.e., robbery, theft, etc., a police report needs to be submitted. That is why Ann's post was removed.

In the case of this, no police report is necessary, it's all over the news, this is an entirely different case IMHO.

And, both Harrie and Bas are correct, in that the Bonaire lovers do want information when something like this happens, as it is so rare.

Anyway, thoughts go to this girls family, and I do hope they resolve this quickly and the woman is returned.

Well I also agree with both Bas & Jerry on this one.

I (and I suspect no one else reading this) have no idea what really happened here. To speculate & read between the lines I don't think is helpful and may be damaging to Bonaire's reputation as a whole. I believe the reason this board was founded and created was to provide useful information to the current and prospective visitors of Bonaire.

To address & speculate on such a highly emotionally charged issue like this (especially without the concluding/final results from the investigative force on Bonaire) serves no useful purpose. I say let the police first do their jobs.

What I hope that is being done is more than what a traditional search and rescue (SAR) team would do, which would be to start searching all over with cadaver dogs.

What is needed is a couple of specialized K9 teams who regularly work cases such as this (abductions, murders, etc.), and to work 'live scent' from where Ms. van der Kouwe was last seen, and have the dogs trail her from there. Being on a bicycle would be of no difficulty, nor if she were transferred onto a motorized cycle. Any other 'sightings' or places-of-interest can also be checked with these scent specific dogs to rule out whether or not Ms. van der Kouwe has been there.

If there is a person of interest, their scent too, can be taken to her last known area to see if the dogs will take THAT scent. There are a lot of different scenarios that can be worked, including working the dogs in cadaver, as well as searching for articles and evidence relevant to this case.

Harrie, sorry, I choose the wrong settings... I was working, and left the translate options to default...

Harrie please keep us informed what is going on.

Hopefully from what you wrote that she is still alive and can be returned without harm.

If you recall the NH scenario in Aruba, news and info changed daily and sometimes hourly. This is the case with the Bonaire situation. People are translating Dutch news reports or Amigo news and there is a lot of truth and here say. There are daily press releases from the police so maybe that would be best posted if it is public. So far today, from locals on island and ex pats, there are 10 stories floating around. I will believe something when I hear an official police bulletin. It seems now a unified effort is in place with several police authorities. Julia, you may want to post your URL so folks know who you represent please.

While I definitely feel that two experienced members of our unit who could help on this case as this is what we do, posting on here was more of "I hope that resources of this type are used" versus bringing in straight SAR teams if indeed this turns out to be more of a case like NH's case was. I am stating only my own personal feelings.

Nonetheless, our URL is: www.vk9sar.org

Julie, would you mind adding your URL to your profile.

Thanks,

She's been found! Somewhere at Karpata after the police got a tip. Don't know how she's doing but I've learned she's currently at the docters office.

Good news.
Thanks for posting, and welcome to BT Danielle.

Danielle - where/how/when did you hear this?

Just now, my boss is a good friend of the doctor who is treating her.

This is very good news indeed.

I just heard that the parents and brother haven't heard anything so I have no clue how she might be doing if they haven't even informed her family.

Which docter is treating her??

Let's hope this is all true and we can all be happy at an outcome which does not usually happen.

I've been told all of the local radio stations are to be broadcasting a press/news conference at 5pm (which I believe they have been doing for the past few days already). Hopefully someone here with better language skills than I can post a translation (or link to one) afterwards.

Is this true, has she been found or not?
Will somebody please confirm?
I'm all the way in Toronto, Canada, and no access to the local radio stations, if anyone has a link that provides the broadcast I will be happy to translate from Papiamento to English.

I haven't heard anything yet, but haven't got a radio, also tried to reach Danielle, which docter she's with, because I can call then to find confirmation, but no success so far...Let's hope it's her and that's she's fine.
Earlier today I already heard that she was found, and later on they said that it was just a rumor...hope it's not the same that Danielle got...

I heard the press-conference just minutes ago, (is still going on)

Marlies haven't been found.
Search with special trained dogs will go on tomorrow

more in next post

Harrie

Correction, not all. I missed the beginning listening to one that was not broadcasting it, I've just tuned into 102.7...I'm not going to risk a translation (it does sound like they're using/used dogs though, from Curacao and Holland).

Yes, and the rumor about the random is not true at all...pfff, it's still going, I leave it to Harrie, because I don't have a radio here, have to call once and a while to a friend to get updated about the news...

It's a shame that Flamingo Tv isn't doing anything....

Bon Tardi Dulce, both 102,7 (BonFM) and 94,7 (Voz di Boneiru) are broadcasting in Papiamento & Dutch. I'll start looking for a site; anyone else out there know?

No, I'm sorry Ruth, I'm also searching...

ransom rumor is not true. the husband in holland said it was and the wife who is here said absolutely not. the police verified in the news conference there is no ransom

Dulce, google 'voz di bonaire radio 94.7' and you'll get several selections-see which one your computer can listen to best. This one is broadcasting live (with about a 1 minute delay): https://radiotime.com/ProgramDetailsaspx?ProgramID=142552&StationID=3041 Click on "Listen" (though I think most of it is over right now, sorry).

Indeed, the police-chief was extremely clear in this, no ransom, although he had only spoken to the mother of the 8 y old, not the father, but he was still very sure of this.
The 8 y old is safe and sound.
In that case a suspect was taken in custody, and is examined in this very moment. He will stay in custody for at least 10 days.
It was not exactly clear, but it appeared he had made a partial confession. The police-chief didn't want to say if person taken in custody had been convicted before.
He stated also clearly that the two cases have nothing to do with each other.

more in next post
Harrie


(Message edited by harmoni on September 26, 2008)

In the case of Marlies v.d. Kouwe, he said nothing that she was found. Several house-searchings were done, several things were taken in security, didn't want to tell what it was, and what was found on those things.
Special dogs from Curacao arrived yesterday, did field=search with those dogs whole day, (I have seen it actually here, near us in Hato) Searches will go on tomorrow.
50 to 60 people are working exclusively on these two cases.

Not more to tell, poor Marlies.........

Harrie

Please, please, please, Bonaire Talk supporters and Bonaire residents do not post information that is unsubstantiated. Rumor and innuendo can be devastating to our island. Even if the police are only providing limited information about the investigation at least that information is based in fact, not rumor or speculation. Whether the police have done a proper job or not is a separate issue. Please do not post information unless it is based in fact and not second or third hand information. Let us not let this issue get out of hand. Truth is alway less interesting than rumor.

Jim and Jane, THANK YOU. Only official police reports SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO POST INFORMATION. Danielle's post got everyone excited..this is what is happening in Bonaire and it's just wrong. Please post official statements only, not what is heard on the street.

A message of thanks to Ruth van Tilburg for the link. It didn't quite work for me, but I did follow your advice to google it, and found this link:

http://www.vozdibonaire.com

it seems like a "live" broadcast, and I was shocked by what I heard.
I have to say...it sounded more like somebody from Curacao then from Bonaire, but the discussion was not at all about Marlies.
I'll continue to listen to see if she mentions anything about Marlies or the search.

I also found the other radio station mentioned by Ruth, which is:

http://www.bonfm.com/index.html

Thanks so very much Ruth, you've provided me with information that not even my family in Bonaire e-v-e-r sent me. SO, masha danki y un abrazo.

As for Jim and Jane...
Thanks for writing your message. I was probably one of the many that got all emotional and happy that Marlies was (supposedly) found. It is not easy to follow the events all the way from Canada, as much as I would like to. What happened in Aruba with Natalee, was covered by the American press very closely, and of course Toronto is so close to the U.S. border that we got the information instantaneously. Not exactly with this tragedy unfolding in Bonaire.

I also want to emphasize that it is important for those posting here, to understand the absolute necessity to stick to the truth, because there are some of us that are only able to get information from this particular site (at this time). Please be considerate to this fact.
And a personal "thanks" to all that are helping with providing information.

My 5 cents, (Eurocents of course)

If Daniella in her first post would have written:

=====I heard from friends that Marlies is found, and she is currently for a check-up with the doctor. As soon as I know more I will inform you. I have got no official confirmation yet.=====

I think this would have been absolutely acceptable. You give information, "hot from the needle", and make a remark it could be not true. Perfect! This is information at least I wanted to hear as soon as possible. I think more people involved in Bonaire would have wanted to hear it.

Daniella never came back when the information appeared incorrect. She could have written something like this:

°°°°Sorry Folks, the people that informed me appeared to be unreliable°°°°°°°

Daniella, you should have done this at least!!!!

When I write a post here, I always tell where my information comes from, and give an indication how certain the information is.

I agree you have to be careful to provide "hear-say" information, but if you only provide information that comes from the official Police-communiques, I feel we would give absolute too late information to the people that love Bonaire so much.

Vince, Bas & Jerry. I think this board has to give objective information to the users. And the users are not only American tourists, also people working here in tourist-industry are using it (very often to promote their business, or at least promote the island and the tourist-industry on the island to visitors. But there are a lot of people on this board living here, and have no interest at all in the tourist-business. Why should they not be allowed to use the board? There is even a special thread for them, called "Local items".
I absolutely disagree when we filter out the negative things on the island towards tourists. Scaring things are happening here, and tourists must know about it. Everybody must know about it. Then we can work on getting things better. Keeping important information behind, because tourists could decide to go somewhere else, is the worst thing you can do. Bonaire is still relatively safe, compared to all other countries, and we can work on it, to make it even safer, if we know what is wrong.

I would be very angry when I want to go on holidays to some country, and the information-sources that claim to be information-source appear to have given me coloured information when I am in that country.

At the moment it is very silent around Marlies. One week ago, she disappeared, obviously no kidnapping, so the chances she is still alive are getting smaller and smaller.
Poor Marlies, poor parents and friends, poor Bonaire.


Harrie

Afternoon, good friends. Here is late Sat. Still no rain, and I have 2000 thirsty plants and trees.

Strongly suggest you best take a look at Amigoe.com today's
English section.

A job half done. Now comes the dirty part.

don/

If organizations wanted to offer their resources to help locate Ms. van der Kouwe as well as to find the person(s) responsible for her abduction, is there anyone here who knows the appropriate officials to contact and possibly the family as well (and HOW to contact or IS in contact with any of the above)?

@ Don.

What do you mean with your comment? I checked Amigoe.com but there is no new news about Marlies. Can we please stay on topic here and leave your gardening troubles for elsewhere on this forum. Your comment about 'the dirty part' made my neck hairs rise!

Again, my heart goes out to the family and friends of Marlies and off course to Marlies herself, where ever she might be. Please come back to your loved ones in sound health soon!

Don't know how you missed it, Joey, but here's a link:http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_47294.php

They have made an arrest, and have confiscated a scooter.

@ Harrie:

I never suggested not to discuss negative things. I suggested to stick to facts. Once the information is a fact it belongs on the board in my opinion. I totally disagree that there is any value in posting "I have heard that she has been found and is in the doctors office". You as a fellow resident may know there are many stories going around about this case and posting and discussing all those stories just makes it into a big gossip column and adds nothing. I stand by my point that on this forum it should be the facts of the case only that are reported.

Bas, well said....I guess that is what I was trying to say in my post. Re Danielle's post, she was posting from the island, and we believe she is a resident. I'm afraid what happened is that she probably "heard" it and was excited in thinking Mariles had been found. Which, is not something we want here (something heard).

So, that being said, news items are fine. In respect for this serious, and heartbreaking event, information from second or third hand is not (for example, a phone call, conversation with someone, etc.), and will be deleted by a moderator moving forward.

(Message edited by modcynde on September 28, 2008)

I would like to apologise to everyone. I honestly did not mean to upset anyone and I really thought it was true since it came from a (so I thought) relyable source.In my excitement I posted it as a fact and you are all correct that it was hear say. I assume you can understand I want her found as much as anyone and I made a horrble mistake by posting the message. Again, my apologies and I hope she will be found soon.

Dear moderators,

If you do not agree with this message, please feel free to remove it, I want to submit to your rules, although I don't completely agree with them.

There was just news on the local radio. As it is difficult for people abroad, I want to tell all BT'ers what is going on in this case, as soon as I get information.

Police found on the confiscated scooter a special kind of sand, and that sand comes from a part of the island where several Kunuku's are. They are searching now on those Kunuku's with a whole lot of policemen. Hope to find more of Marlies.


Danielle, it is so true what you say, we all hope she will be found, and any positive news makes us excited.

Harrie

(Message edited by harmoni on September 28, 2008)

Danielle, thank you. That is I thought, you did not mean to be mean or malicous in any way. And yes, we do understand (or at least I do).

Hi
Perhaps someone there could read the article in 9/27 issue of Extra and give us a synopsis. From my own browsing of it I gained very little but it does not seem to be anything new.
Mick

Strangely enough on the airport, there is some more news on Bo TV, channel 24, but when I look at it home, I have something completely different going on on that channel, my friend is still watching at the airport, so if he heard something new, I'll post it....

what is a Kunuku ?

Good question Denise, on Bonaire everybody knows what is meant with the Kunuku, but I feel it is difficult to explain.
Give it a try:

A piece of land, owned by people, normally with a house/building on it, where people live, and it is far away from the normal (coastal living areas, normally no paved roads going to it. This is where the locals live, normally under poor conditions, although also imported people sometimes prefer to live there, because it is quiet and beautiful.

Harrie

Denise...The outback..

Some rumours came in, will wait till there is more information. Simone, did you also hear the rumours I heard?

Harrie

@Denise Kunuku is the local countryside, the wilderness.

Dear all,

Just found a news update from several Dutch media
According to RTL News they have been searching and digging at and near the garbage dump. The journalist said that (his estimated guess/opinion) they did not find anything since the search was aborted and the search area was cleared and accessible.

Mickey, the article in 9/27 edition of Extra was essentially just a re-hash of the story reported in a Dutch newspaper that the kidnapping of Marlies was related to attempted kidnapping of the 8 year old girl whose father has drug convictions and a last name very similar to Marlies' last name and whose older 17 year old daughter works near the bar where Marlies was last seen. Harrie has posted some of this information previously. At this time, the police deny that there is any connection between the two cases. There was nothing new about the case in any of the articles in Extra.

Well, Harrie, I don't know, but there was on the radio, that the suspect admitted that he was with her at some time...Not much more at this moment...The mother is also there for questioning.

If I understood well, they are searching the kunuku area behind Amboina

Kunuku means something like "land outside of town" , that is where to Bonaireans have their goats, they go there in the evenings and mornings and they have goat stables and/or fenced in area for the goats and often a hut to spend the week end . There are some living in the Kunuku, mostly rather close to town, but in the last years some foreigners build houses in the Kunukus.
Quite a big areas (old plantations) are not fenced in any more, often belonging to people from Curacao or Aruba.

please do not post hearsay. Links to news articles, or posting new articles that are not copyright are fine

(Message edited by modcynde on September 28, 2008)

(Message edited by modcynde on September 28, 2008)

According to the radio report earlier this afternoon, they are searching in the barrio of Mexico which is a kunuku area accessible off Lagoen Road. The report said that they had been searching since 8 a.m. this morning for at least 4 hours. Do not know if the search is still continuing as of now.

News on radio:
The search on Kunuku (Bario Mexico) was finished, nothing was found.
The rumours I heard were not correct.

The guy that was arrested has made a partial confession, he has been with Marlies that evening, and doesn't want to tell what he has done to her, or where she is now.

He will stay in custody at least one week.

Harrie

FYI - Mexico on Bonaire is just west of Antriol off Lagun Road. Susan and I still hold out hope until we hear otherwise.

Patrick

HI everyone my sympathy goes for the family of the missing girl, things like this should never ever happen to any one.

We can not understand our even imagine what the families goes thru lets keep them and their daughter in our prayers.


Thank you

Jay

Jay, we had to remove part of your message. Please, no hearsay, no reference to anything that cannot be backed up by news articles, radio or tv annoucnements.



(Message edited by modcynde on September 28, 2008)

http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2651197/Politie_op_Bonaire_graaft_naar_Marlies.html

The ad.nl article says (roughly)

The search team from Bonaire dug yesterday looking for the body of Marlies van der Kouwe, who disappeared without a trace. They searched in a trash dump near the place she disappeared, and in three other places. This has been confirmed by foreign reporters on the island.

The police aren't providing details, but will confirm that they are still searching.

They are basing their searches on information received from Ryan P. and other tips from the general populace.

Reporters have been having trouble keeping track of the police. The police have driven at over 150 km/hr (90 mph) on narrow roads to attempt to shake reporters, and led some on a wild goose chase to the police station in Rincon.

It repeats the story that Ryan P. was in prison in Curacao, and then describes the terrain of Bonaire so that foreign readers get an idea of what the search entails.

:Note that I am a student of Dutch, not a professional translator. If any of the Dutch speakers think I've made an error, feel free to point it out.

can someone please translate this information into English for us

thank you Kevin !

By PETER DE KNEGT
BONAIRE - An investigationteam of the police in Bonaire yesterday dug in search of traces that can lead to the body of the disappeared pharmacist-trainee Marlies van der Kouw (24).

There would be a search on a landfill near the spot where the woman has disappeared, and at three other places. That is confirmed by well-informed sources on the island.

Police spokesman Jos Klaren doesn't want to "confirm nor deny." this message, "Since we don't comment on the search, but I can say that we focused more specific on the search.''

Whether the targeted searches of the team are made based on information gained from interviews with the 24-year-old suspect Ryan P. or tips from the public, can't Klaren tell as well " because of the interests of the investigation".

Posting journalists try to follow outgoing searchteams from the police-station in Kralendijk expecting to learn more about the investigation. Yesterday morning it led even to a chase, where a police-team succesfully got rid of the pursuers during rides of 150 kilometers per hour on the narrow roads. Another trip of police-investigators to the northern part of the island lead to the policestation of Rincon. Journalists think that the suspect P. is to be questioned by Dutch policemen overthere.

P. was previously sentenced to eight years in prison for the abduction and rape of a woman. He is only three months out of prison. P. received after returning to the island no professional guidance, insiders know.

A tour on the island makes more clear with what problems the searchteam is to be confronted. As far as sight goes, all high cacti grow amid dry bushes on the cork dry land. Next of that, the island has about 150 caves as big that you can even easaly lost in them. If the body of Marlies has been dumped in one of them, it only can be found after a insiders tips.

Lou, was this in the amigoe? Please site your source.

Cynde, that is a translation of the article of the AD Lou had linked earlier.

Thank you Brigitte.

ModCyn,

You removed the story of Simone, in which she told that there was searching in Mexico, a Kunuku-site on Bonaire.
She had her information from a telephone call from a friend, who lives next to that site.
This was also on several radio programmes. Of course, everybody on Bonaire is excited on what has happened here. And we all hope the best for Marlies, but you won't be very reassured when you hear that policemen with big plastic bags are walking around there, collecting things on that supposedly garbage dump. This, she (and I) didn't tell you in this thread, because of the "hearsay"-content of it.
They stopped the search because nothing suspicious was found, although they collected quite some things there.

I doubt if Simone (8 years on Bonaire) will ever post anything again here.....


Harrie

@ ModCyn Sorry for the dimness. Yes, it's the translation of the article from AD, which I linked on 5:45pm.

Harrie, Simone also said said something that was disturbing. She posted information from a phone call, not something from the radio, or news. I do hope that she does not stay away from BT.

I know that a lot of things are getting "lost in transaltion"...Dutch to English, Papiamento to English, etc. However, to post that "i hear they are here...i just talked to a friend who lives there and....." is hearsay.

Lou, thank you. I didn't realize the link was to the same article.

Again, folks, we know that this is a VERY touchy subject. We the moderators are trying to keep this thread open, and let folks post news. Let's keep our heads.

I found this site of hers (like myspace?):
http://marliesvanderkouwe.waarbenjij.nu/index.php?page=profile

and this site has more translations of articles:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3445.0

From AD, A Dutch paper published today Sunday 28 september

Weblink: http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2651197/Verdachte_stapte_in_buurt_van_Marlies.html

I translated each paragraph in to English. Some sentences will sound strange in English, that is because of my poor translation skills and my attempt to stay as close as possible to the original Dutch text. But I have to say that the quotes also sound strange in Dutch: I suppose that the quotes are translated from Papiemento to Dutch.

Verdachte stapte in buurt van Marlies
Suspect was going out in neighbourhood of Marlies

Door / By PETER DE KNEGT
De van ontvoering van Marlies van der Kouwe verdachte Ryan P. was op de zaterdagavond van de verdwijning van Marlies met een goede vriendin aan het stappen aan de boulevard in Kralendijk.

The kidnapping Marlies van der Kouwe suspect Ryan P was going out at the Kralendijk boulevard with a good lady friend on the night of the disappearance of Marlies.

Aan die boulevard ligt ook Karels Beach Bar waar Marlies met vrienden een feestje vierde en rond 1.00 uur 's nachts op haar fiets stapte om naar huis te gaan.

On that boulevard is also Karels Beach Bar where Marlies had a party with friends and stepped on her bike around 1:00 at night to go home.

De vriendin van Ryan heeft volgens de oom van Ryan, Norberto Pietersz tegenover hem en de politie verklaard ,,dat zij de avond en een deel van de nacht met hem heeft doorgebracht, maar dat hij niet de hele tijd bij haar was''.

The lady friend of Ryan has, according to the uncle of Ryan, Norberto Pietersz, testified to him and the police: “that she spent the evening and a part of the night with him, but that he was not with her all the time”.

,,Dat vertelde ze mij toen we met de familie bij elkaar kwamen in het huis van mijn zus, zijn moeder, vlak nadat Ryan door de politie donderdag was gearresteerd. Wij wonen allemaal vlak bij elkaar in de wijk Tera Kora en zijn nadat bekend was dat Ryan was vastgenomen bij zijn moeder bij elkaar gekomen

“She told me that when we met with family in the house of my sister, his mother, just after Ryan was arrested by the police on Thursday. We all live close to each other in the Tera Kora neighborhood and came together at his mother just after Ryan was taken in to custody.

Daar was ook die vriendin bij.'We waren er bij die ontmoeting overigens allemaal over eens dat Ryan zich tussen het moment van de verdwijning van Malies op zaterdag en zijn arrestatie vijf dagen later op geen enkele manier vreemd had gedragen. Ryan woonde niet bij zijn moeder, maar bij een dochter van een nicht sinds hij een kleine twee maanden geleden terugkwam naar Bonaire.'' Ryan heeft zes jaar vastgezeten op Curaçao vanwege ondermeer verkrachting.

There was also the lady girl friend present. “We anyway all agreed at that meeting that Ryan had not behaved strange in any way between the moment of the disappearance of Marlies on Saturday and his arrest five days later. Ryan did not live at his mother, but with a daughter of a niece since he returned to Bonaire a small two months ago.” Ryan was locked up for six years on Curacao because of among rape. (Comment Arjan: or cousin Dutch language uses the same word for niece and cousin)

Bronnen rond het politieonderzoek melden dat Ryan inmiddels tijdens zijn verhoren heeft toegegeven Marlies te kennen en die avond contact met haar te hebben gehad. ,,Maar hoeveel dat zegt vraag ik mij af, iedereen hier in het uitgaansleven kent elkaar min of meer,'' aldus een horecauitbater.

Sources around the police investigation report that Ryan, during his interrogations, has admitted to know Marlies and having had contact with her that evening. “But I wonder how much that says, everyone in the nightlife scene knows on another more or less” thus a catering manager.

Onduidelijk is of Ryan ook zijn mogelijke rol in de verdwijning van Marlies heeft toegegeven. Volgens zijn oom Norberto heerst er binnen de familie twijfel over het mogelijke aandeel van Ryan.

Unclear is if Ryan also admitted his possible role in the disappearance of Marlies. According to his uncle Norberto, there is doubt in the family about Ryans possible part.

,,Zijn moeder weet het niet meer, zijn 34-jarige broer Winston gelooft in zijn onschuld, maar is opgehouden met eten. Ze zijn er letterlijk allemaal ziek van.'' Gisteravond is de moeder van Ryan opnieuw door de politie gehoord en zou zij zijn geconfronteerd met haar zoon. Norberto: ,,Ze zit op dit moment (17.00 uur lokale tijd-red.) op het bureau om gehoord te worden.''

“His mother doesn’t know anymore, his 34 years brother Winston believes in his innocence, but stopped eating. They are literally all sick of it. ” Yesterday, Ryans mothers was heard again by the police and she is said to be confronted with her son. Norberto: “She is at this moment (17:00 local time – red.) on the police office to be questioned.

Alhoewel Norberto niet 'weg liep' met zijn 'toch wel agressieve en slimme neefje' wil hij wel een paar dingen nuanceren. ,,Alleen God weet of hij het heeft gedaan, maar er worden wel een paar onzinverhalen over hem verteld. Zo is het maar zeer de vraag of de verkrachting waar hij voor is veroordeeld klopt met de werkelijkheid. Ryan had destijds een relatie met een getrouwde vrouw, haar man kwam erachter dat zij met hem vreemd ging en wilde hem keihard terugpakken, daarop heeft Ryan volgens de politie verkracht. Een raar verhaal.''

Althoug Norberto was ‘not token by’ his ‘actually aggressive and smart nephew’ (Comment Arjan: or cousin Dutch language uses the same word for nephew and cousin cousing) he wants to differentiate some things. “Only God knows if he did it, but there are some nonsense stories told about him. Like it is very questionable if the rape that he was convicted for is consistent with the truth. At that time Ryan had a relation with a married woman, her husband found out that she was sleeping around with him and wanted to get back on him rock-hard, on that Ryan has raped according to the police. A strange story”

Ook het verhaal over de verstopte bemodderde scooter van Ryan ligt volgens Norberto anders dan tot nu toe naar buiten is gekomen. ,,Die scooter heeft Ryan in het weekeinde van de verdwijning van Marlies gekocht van een eilandgenoot voor 700 Antilliaanse guldens. Die maandag of dinsdag werd echter duidelijk dat hij een scooter had gekocht die gestolen was.

Also the story of the hidden muddy scooter of Ryan is, according to Norberto, different than came out up to now. “That scooter is bought by Ryan in the weekend of the disappearance of Marlies from a fellow islander for 700 Antillean guilders. That Monday or Tuesday is came clear that he had bought a scooter that was stolen”.

,,De eigenaar, die erachter kwam, eiste zijn scooter terug, maar Ryan vertelde hem dat hij de scooter alleen terugkreeg als hij 1000 gulden betaalde. Om die reden had hij de scooter verstopt in de schuur bij een oom en tante. Dat verhaal kenden wij al voordat hij donderdag werd gearresteerd.''

“The owner, who found out, demanded the scooter back, but Ryan told him that he would only get the scooter back if he paid 1000 guilders. For that reason he had hidden the scooter in the shed at an uncle and aunt. That story we already knew before he was arrested Thursday”

Zondag is door de politie op verschillende plaatsen op het eiland gegraven en gezocht naar Marlies, echter nog zonder resultaat.

Sunday the police searched on different places on the island and searched for Marlies, however without result.

Later, I will post another translated article from the Telegraaf, another Dutch paper, that paints a different picture on the suspect than the view of his uncle in the AD article. (I need some time to translate) This article is by John van den Heuvel, a Dutch crime reporter with (for a Dutch reporter) a lot of knowledge of Bonaire. I know he visited Bonaire more than once and has good contacts there. This weekend, in an other article, he called in question the Bonaire police decision not to follow the link to the “Van Kouwen family" kidnap attempt and ransom demand. He also used terms like “the blunders of the police in de first two days”.He states that police chief had to admit on Friday that his detectives had not made any contact with the Van Kouwen family. Initially he tried to obscure that by saying that “the family was approached". Schagen told that he had make inquire with van Van Kouwens wife, we proved be knew nothing at all. The Dutch article can be found here: http://www.telegraaf.nl/2046409/__Politie_negeert_geldeis_voor_Marlies__.html

Thanks for the translation Arjan.
Personally, this Ryan suspect certainly sounds like a sick dude to me.

De Telegraaf, ma 29 sep 2008, 05:30
Verdachte bekent contact ontvoerde Marlies v.d. Kouwe

Suspect confesses contact kidnapped Marlies vd Kouwe

By / door John van den Heuvel en Bert Huisjes

De hoofdverdachte van de ontvoering van Marlies van der Kouwe heeft een gedeeltelijke bekentenis afgelegd. Experts van politie en het NFI zijn daarop gaan graven op een specifiek terrein op Bonaire.

The suspect of the kidnaping of Marlies van der Kouwe has made a partial confession. Based on that, experts of the police and NFI started digging on a specific plot on Bonaire.

Onderzoeksleider John Schagen bevestigt dat nu "heel gericht wordt gezocht". "Jullie zijn goed geïnformeerd." De verdachte Rayan Pieters heeft bekend dat hij contact met de 24-jarige Marlies heeft gehad, aldus bronnen rond het onderzoek. Ook heeft de eveneens 24-jarige man in de verhoren laten doorschemeren dat "er tussen hen iets is gebeurd".

Investigation leader John Schagen confirms that now “search is very aimed". “You are well informed". The suspect Ryan Pieters has confessed that he was in contact with the 24 year old Marlies, according to sources around the investigation. Also the also 24 year old man has implied in the interrogation that “something happened between them".

Pieters gijzelde in 2002 een Tsjechische vrouw op het eiland, die hij dagenlang verkrachtte. Ook verkrachtte hij als 16-jarige al eens op gewelddadige wijze een stel dat hem betrapte bij een inbraak. De moeder van de verdachte is gisteravond opgehaald om te worden gehoord over haar zoon.

In 2002 Pieters took a Czech woman hostage on the island, who he raped for days. Also he raped before, as a 16 year old , in a violent way, a couple that caught him at a burglary. The mother of the suspect is picked up yesterday to be heard about her son.

Drie maanden geleden kwam Pieters vervroegd vrij. De gedeeltelijke bekentenis wordt gezien als een grote doorbraak in het onderzoek. Het rechercheteam vreest echter dat de apothekersassistente niet meer in leven is. De politie ging gisterochtend vroeg aan de slag op een privéterrein bij Antriol. Na het eerste forensisch onderzoek, werd in de middag begonnen met graven. De locatie ligt op drie kilometer van de plek waar Marlies van de fiets werd getrokken. Het terrein behoort niet toe aan familie van de verdachte. Op een door Pieter verborgen scooter, die bij zijn oom en tante is aangetroffen, is wel typerende rode modder gevonden, die lijkt op dezelfde grondsamenstelling op deze locatie.

Three month ago Pieters was early released from prison . The partial confession is seen as a major breakthrough in the investigation. The detectiveteam fears however that the pharmacy assistant is no longer alive. The police started yesterday, early in the morning, on a private property at Antriol. After the first forensic investigation, digging was started in the afternoon. The location is situated 3 kilometer from the place where Marlies was pulled of the bike. The property does not belong to family of the suspect. On a by Pieters hidden scooter, which is discovered at his uncle and aunt, typical red mud is found, that looks like the same soil composition on this location.

I'd like to add, folks, don't get your panties in a twist if we remove part of your post, or all of your post. Moderating this thread, is becoming painfully difficult. We have discussed closing it down if it gets out of hand. We want to keep it open, so that information can be provided. However, again, please, think before you post.

YOU REMOVE MY ADD FROM HERE LETS SEE IF YOU CAN REMOVE IT FROM CNN.

JE HEEFT MIJN ARTICLE VAN JE POSTER BOORD VERWEIDER LAAT EENS KIJKEN OF JE HET VAN CNN KAN DOEN.DOEI

SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE GETTING YOUR NIKKERS IN THE TWIST YO CAN NOT HANDLE THE HEAT, IF YOU CANT HANDLE THE HEAT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN !!!!!!!

Jay, you have me at a disadvantage as I am unable to read what you posted. We will get it translated and if it is within the rules it will be re posted.

(Message edited by modjerry on September 29, 2008)

(Message edited by modjerry on September 29, 2008)

Jay, please take a step back and breath.

Harrie, are you asking to be suspended from Bonaire Talk? Our rules are clear, and I don't see why you continue to ignore our repeated requests to follow our rules. Stop posting hearsay! Don't post what you think you heard on the radio. People may be interested in what is going on on the island when crimes against people occur, but these false, tabloid style, sensational posts that you encourage and engage in yourself are absolutely not useful to anyone. Furthermore, I'm quite sure they would be hurtful to any friends and relatives of the victims, who may be monitoring the internet for any news.

Be good or be gone. If you feel so strongly about posting gossip, lies, and hearsay, start your own board.

I translated it, but I still don't get it...

Thanks PS, Martin will have to look it over I think

I hope it's nothing too bad, if so please delete it. I don't understand it at all.

(Message edited by modjerry on September 29, 2008)

I agree PS.

I think that this whole thread has become a farce that is detracting from the seriousness of the issue.

Nobody should be posting hearsay, conjecture or inept translations of what may of may not be happening. I would go further as to say that this thread should be closed as of now.

It is obvious that it has become impossible to moderate such an emotive thread and the attempt to do so has become farcical.

I respectfully suggest that this thread is not only closed but that any further matters relating to this incident are restricted to official press reports from the Police posted by the moderators.

The friends and family of this young girl must be absolutely outraged by some of the above posts and I am sure that if it doesn't desist, it will be to the lasting detriment to this forum.

Antony.

By ModCyn (Moderator - Post #742) on Friday, September 26, 2008 - 1:06 pm:

"Harrie, thanks. I think you, and Ann misunderstood my statement. Posts of news articles, or information that was publicised on Bonaire radio are not "hearsay" in my opinion, it is information that Bonaire lovers are looking for.

What I meant by hearsay is that "i heard that, blah blah blah" without a news article, or source/reference.

And yes, if it is a post about a crime that happened to someone, i.e., robbery, theft, etc., a police report needs to be submitted. That is why Ann's post was removed. "


not trying to start an arguement with you modseb but modcyn posted this a couple days ago saying it was ok to post stuff off the radio.

I am interested in knowing what is going on as i am in another country and watching this closely as we vacation there every year. I want to know what is going on there, and here they are not talking about it on our news at all. so the only way i hear anything is on here

Modseb, You made me speechless, and that is quite unusual.



But not for too long:
I have tried to inform people on this board as good as possible, I try to filter out as good as possible things that could be not true. I didn't post anything that is hearsay, at least according the definition modcynde made before, and Aaron referred to.
If you think I post things that are not in conformity to the rules the BT-management made, so feel free to remove it. I think I try to give information to all the BT'ers as good as possible, and block real "hearsay" myself. When Danielle posted the post "She's been found", I had also heard this, but didn't post it. I didn't trust the information. When I heard information about the things they found in Mexico, I didn't post it, because I didn't trust it. At this very moment I have more information, and I hope it will come out soon, (I hope it will, so that this horrible story comes to an end). But I will not post it, because it is not confirmed. Actually, from all the things I posted in this case, most of them were in the media already, and everything appeared to be true later......
I know many of the BT'ers want to be informed as quick as possible, and I am sure they are intelligent enough to read through the posts and find out what they can believe of it.
I HATE that you, modseb wants to censor posts on BT, just because you are manager, or owner or whatever of this board that could give such good information. I could agree with the comments Cyndee made, independent from my opinion on the rules the moderators made for BT in general.
I repeat, I just want to give information from in-island to people that love Bonaire, perhaps even more then I do, and that are anxious to know about what is going on here.
Modseb, I think with melancholy back to the times Jake and Linda moderated BT. We also had several discussions, but there were never such rude words as you used. Jake was such a charming person, in the way he moderated BT. You can learn quite a lot of the way he did it.........

Back to your post, Seb,

No, I am not asking to be suspended from BT, I just want to inform BT'ers as good as possible. I don't want to ignore your rules. I didn't post anything of what I THOUGHT I heard on the radio, I posted what I heard on the radio, I just translated it from Papiamentu into English, and as I am not a native-Papiamentu-speaker, nor a native-American-speaker, there could be some slight differences in my translations.

And, Seb, who is lying? I did not post hearsay, I did not post lies, I did not post gossip.

If I want to start an own board, I will do so, thanks for reminding me.

I am good, and I am not gone....

You would have done better to take an ice-cold shower before you posted your post here-above. Or did you have a pica-meal?
If you want me to be gone off this board, you will have to remove me, I can live without a board that is censored so heavily. But let this post exist, and do not remove my answer to you, (as you did during our last discussion some year ago or so, so indecent), so all readers can see what the BT-management does to people that try to avoid censorship.
You can live without a man that tries to inform BT as good as possible, and tries to find the holes in the rules to do so. Oh yes, I am controversial, What is wrong on that?
If you remove me, please don't forget to take me off the list of the BT-Angels, who sponsored BT in difficult times.

Harrie

In the marlies-case, there is no additional information available at the moment.

Harrie

Amen!
I would also like to add that I didn't see any encouragement to adding gossip and nothing harmfull for the parents or family I could find... It's very over reacting to people which mean only good for Marlies and the case and to inform other people.

Thank you Harrie. Don't go away.

Jay, using CAPITAL is considered shouting and we do not tolerate that on BT. Your statement regarding CNN is leaving me clueless. Most posters and readers are people who love Bonaire and are looking for information about Bonaire in general and on this page for information regarding the disaperance of a young lady. Please do act as if you care. And if you don't care, please don't post. If you continue to post like you did before, we have to suspend your account.

Also, I would like to give you a little heads up: Bonaire is a part of our kingdom, so we do need to support this part of our country.

If you happen to have some diffuculties with English, I'll post it in Dutch as well...

Jay, het gebruik van HOOFDLETTERS wordt als schreeuwen gezien en dat accepteren we niet op Bonairetalk. Je opmerking over CNN slaat nergens op. De meeste mensen die hier posten of alleen maar lezen, houden van Bonaire en zoeken op dit forum informatie over bonaire en op deze pagina in het bijzonder informatie over de verdwijning van een jonge vrouw. Probeer hier in je berichten rekening mee te houden. als je dit niet kunt, laat je berichten dan achterwege. Als je op deze manier blijft posten, moeten we je account de-activeren.

Verder wil ik je even wijzen op het feit dat Bonaire onderdeel s van het Koninkrijk der Nederlanden en dat we daarom wel de nodige ondersteuning moeten geven.

Oh by-the-way,

Moderators!

I know moderating such a board is not easy, but you could at least try to do it in a polite way.

Harrie

OK folks, the thread has now been officially closed. If you would like to have something posted, information about the case, please email it to the moderators at moderators@bonairetalk.com. We will review the information.

Remember, that we as moderators do not always agree. That is why there are so many of us, different strokes for different folks.

Let's all keep good thoughts for Mariles that she is found.

The Moderators

(Message edited by modcynde on September 29, 2008)

We did receive this mail from one of the members, thank you for taking the time to translate and mail it to us!

Source: AD - a Dutch news paper

Parts of the text are the same as in the earlier posted AD article.

Verwarring over ‘bekentenis’

Confusion over ‘confession’

Door / By PETER DE KNEGT

BONAIRE

De van ontvoering van Marlies van der Kouwe verdachte Ryan P. (27) zou in alle toonaarden ontkennen dat hij betrokken is bij de verdwijning van de Nederlandse stagiaire op Bonaire.

Ryan P (27), the suspect of kidnapping Marlies van der Kouwe , is said to deny most emphatically that he is involved in the disappearance of the Dutch trainee on Bonaire.

Media berichtten gisteren over een gedeeltelijke bekentenis van de verdachte. P. zou echter alleen hebben erkend dat hij Marlies kende uit Kralendijk en het uitgaansleven op en rond de boulevard. Dat verklaart een politiebron rondom het onderzoeksteam tegenover het AD.

Media reported yesterday about a partial confession of the suspect. P.
however is said to only have acknowledged that he knew Marlies from Kralendijk en the nightlife on and around the boulevard. That stated a police source around the investigation team to the AD.

"P. heeft tijdens zijn verhoren tot op heden op geen enkele manier zijn betrokkenheid bij haar verdwijning erkend. Hij zegt er helemaal niets mee te maken te hebben en de bewuste zaterdagavond met zijn vriendin op stap te zijn geweest in het uitgaanscentrum,’’ weet de goed ingevoerde bron.

“During his interrogation P has until now in no way acknowledged his involvement with her disappearance. He says he has nothing to do with it and on the particular Saturday night to have been out with his lady friend in the entertainment centre” knows a well-up source.

Het onderzoeksteam wil niet op de uitkomst van de verhoren ingaan, maar ontkent wel met stelligheid dat het onderzoeksteam zou hebben bevestigd dat P. een gedeeltelijke verklaring heeft afgelegd. ,,Daar doen wij in het belang van het onderzoek geen enkele mededeling over.’’

The investigation team does not want to go in to the outcome of the interrogations, but does deny decisive that the investigation team is supposed to have confirmed that P had made a partial confession. “In the interest of the investigation we do not make any announcement on that”.

Volgens de bron vinden agenten binnen het team dat er sprake is van een slechte samenwerking. ,,Ze zijn de regie en controle op het onderzoek kwijt.
Iedereen doet wat onderzoekswerk voor zichzelf, maar er is geen grotere visie.’’

According to the source, the policemen within the team think there is talk of poor cooperation. “They lost the direction and control over the investigation. Everyone does some investigation for his own, but there is no larger picture.”

De vriendin van Ryan heeft volgens een oom van Ryan, Norberto, tegenover hem en de politie verklaard ‘dat zij de avond en een deel van de nacht met Ryan heeft doorgebracht, maar dat hij niet de hele tijd bij haar was’.

The girlfriend of Ryan has according to an uncle of Ryan, Norberto, stated to him and the police ‘that she spent the evening and part of the night with Ryan, but that he was not with her all the time.’

Norberto: ,,Dat vertelde ze mij toen we met de familie bij elkaar kwamen in het huis van mijn zus, zijn moeder, vlak nadat Ryan door de politie donderdag was gearresteerd. Wij wonen allemaal vlak bij elkaar in de wijk Tera Kora en zijn nadat bekend was dat Ryan was vastgenomen bij zijn moeder bij elkaar gekomen. Daar was ook die vriendin bij.

Norerto: “She told me that when we came together with the family in the house of my sister, his mother, just after Ryan was arrested by the police on Thursday. We all live close to each other in the Tera Kora neighborhood and we came together after it came out that Ryan was taken in to custody. There also the girlfriend was present.

We waren er bij die ontmoeting overigens allemaal over eens dat Ryan zich tussen het moment van de verdwijning van Marlies op zaterdag en zijn arrestatie vijf dagen later op geen enkele manier vreemd had gedragen. Ryan woonde niet bij zijn moeder, maar bij een dochter van een nicht sinds hij een kleine twee maanden geleden terugkwam naar Bonaire.’’ Ryan heeft zes jaar vastgezeten op Curaçao wegens verkrachting.

“We anyway all agreed at that meeting that Ryan had not behaved strange in any way between the moment of the disappearance of Marlies on Saturday and his arrest five days later. Ryan did not live at his mother, but with a daughter of a niece since he returned to Bonaire a small two months ago.”
Ryan was locked up for six years on Curacao because of among rape. (Comment
Arjan: or cousin Dutch language uses the same word for niece and cousin)

Ryan zou inmiddels tijdens zijn verhoren hebben toegegeven Marlies te kennen en die avond contact met haar te hebben gehad. ,,Maar hoeveel dat zegt vraag ik mij af, iedereen in het uitgaansleven hier kent elkaar min of meer,’’
zegt een horeca-uitbater.

Ryan is said to have admitted during his interrogation to know Marlies and having had contact with her that evening. “But I wonder how much that says, everyone in the nightlife scene knows on another more or less” thus a catering manager.

Onduidelijk is of Ryan ook zijn mogelijke rol in de verdwijning van Marlies heeft toegegeven. Volgens zijn oom Norberto heerst er binnen de familie twijfel over het mogelijke aandeel van Ryan. ,,Zijn moeder weet het niet meer, zijn 34-jarige broer Winston gelooft in zijn onschuld, maar is opgehouden met eten. Ze zijn er letterlijk allemaal ziek van.’’

Unclear is if Ryan also admitted his possible role in the disappearance of Marlies. According to his uncle Norberto, there is doubt in the family about Ryans possible part. “His mother doesn’t know anymore, his 34 years brother Winston believes in his innocence, but stopped eating. They are literally all sick of it. ”

Gisteravond is Ryans moeder opnieuw door de politie gehoord en zij zou zijn geconfronteerd met haar zoon. Norberto: ,,Ze zit op dit moment (17.00 uur lokale tijd, red.) op het bureau om te worden gehoord.’’

Yesterday, Ryans mothers was heard again by the police and she is said to be confronted with her son. Norberto: “She is at this moment (17:00 local time – red.) on the police office to be questioned.

We just have received a new posting. Thank you again for translating. The person who maild us is no official translator, so there might be some typo's.

Wednesday, October 1 2008, 05:30
Dutch Media: De Telegraaf
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2073577/__Politie_zoekt_auto_en_handtas_Marlies__.html
Police is searching for car and handbag of Marlies
By John van de Heuvel and Bert Huisjes
KRALENDIJK (Bonaire) – The police of Bonaire is searching for a black car for the last couple of days that possibly played an important role in the disappearance of Marlies van der Kouwe
Also assistance is asked to the inhabitants of the island regarding the missing handbag of Marlies. The pharmacy assistant was cycling with this handbag to her home, but the bag was not found after she was kidnapped. In this bag were probably her wallet and her cell phone. According to friends, this cell phone has not been switched on after she left that night. The information about the black car is taken seriously. The Police have wondered ho wit was possible to involuntary transport Marlies on a scooter.
The police received information about the involvement of a second person. Furthermore, a female relative of the main suspect would be familiar with the complete details of the kidnap.
The kidnap of the Dutch girl –now already a week and a half ago- is starting to leave its marks with the family of the parents. Witnesses saw her mother leaving the hotel, heavily crying. Painfully enough the family stays in the same hotel were the suspect was working. Also tensions within the police team of over 60 investigators are building up. Between de investigators coming from the Netherlands, Aruba, Curacao and Bonaire there are differences on the approach to take for the investigation. Specially within the team coming from the Netherlands there is irritation on the lack of professionalism as is made clear from their conversations in the local bars & cafe’s. They were not fully aware of close the community is at the Island. Also the close family ties are hurdling the investigation.
To prevent leaking sensitive information via the police to the family of the main suspect and possible other suspects, not all investigators are fully informed on the progress of the investigation. This necessary approach also brings tension between the Antilleans and the Dutch investigation team. The Dutch team and the Dutch management are sensitive matters on the island.




Politie zoekt auto en handtas Marlies
door John van de Heuvel en Bert Huisjes
KRALENDIJK (Bonaire) - De politie van Bonaire zoekt sinds enkele dagen naar een zwarte auto die mogelijk een belangrijke rol speelt in de verdwijning van Marlies van der Kouwe.
Ook is de hulp ingeroepen bij de bevolking over een verdwenen tas van Marlies. De apothekersassistente fietste met een handtas naar huis, maar deze is na de kidnap niet teruggevonden. In de tas bevonden zich vermoedelijk haar portemonnee en gsm. Volgens vrienden van Marlies is de telefoon na haar vertrek die avond nooit meer aangezet. Ook de informatie over de auto wordt serieus genomen. De recherche heeft zich steeds afgevraagd hoe Marlies onvrijwillig op een scooter moet zijn vervoerd.
De politie heeft informatie gekregen dat bij de ontvoering sprake was van een tweede persoon. Verder zou bij een vrouwelijk familielid van de hoofdverdachte Rayan Pieters de gehele toedracht bekend zijn.
De ontvoering van de Nederlandse, nu anderhalve week geleden, begint inmiddels zijn tol te eisen bij de ingevlogen ouders. Getuigen zagen haar moeder intens huilend het hotel verlaten. Zij waren pijnlijk genoeg ondergebracht in hetzelfde hotel als waar de hoofdverdachte werkte. Ook binnen het onderzoeksteam van ruim zestig rechercheurs zijn er spanningen.

Tussen de rechercheurs uit Nederland, Aruba, Curaçao en Bonaire groeien verschillen van mening over de aanpak. Bij de Nederlandse politiemensen is er vooral ergernis over de aanpak en het gebrek aan professionaliteit, zo wordt duidelijk uit hun boze gesprekken in de lokale horeca. Zij leken zich afgelopen dagen niet bewust hoe klein de gemeenschap in Bonaire is. Op Bonaire wordt het onderzoek ook belemmerd door de vele familieverbanden.

Om te voorkomen dat gevoelige informatie via de politie naar familie en eventuele verdachten uitlekt, worden niet alle rechercheurs ingelicht over de voortgang van het onderzoek. Die noodzakelijke aanpak zet echter ook de verhouding tussen Antillianen en Nederlandse onderzoekers op scherp. De Nederlands inbreng en leiding liggen op het eiland gevoelig.

Again we would like to thank a member of our forum for the translation of the following:

Dutch Media: Algemeen Dagblad
http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2657786/lsquoAllemaal_leugens_over_Ryanrsquo.html
‘All lies about Ryan’
By Peter de Knegt
BONAIRE – “He would not have gone to work after the women disappeared in the weekend? Nonsense, he picked up his lunch and I’ve brought him to his work at the Plaza Hotel at 7.50 hrs”.
The mother of Ryan P. –Virginia- strongly believes in the innocence of her son and rejects all ‘lies and nonsense” that are going around on the island. In her small –with family pictures wallpapered house at the Kaya Amazon- she is watching the media coverage the whole day on radio, in the papers and on the TV. “It is completely wrong, my son would have bought a jerry can of gasoline last Monday to burn that lady? Nonsense! I was out of gas and called him to bring me some gasoline. That’s the whole story!
My car –that has been taken into custody for research- supposedly would have been used to hide the body. Also nonsense. The night that lady disappeared the other son (who works as a security guard) took the car from 22.00 hours till 06.00 hours.
And so –according to the mother and lawyer of the suspect- there are a lot of fairytales about Ryan. A colleague of him declared that Ryan threw up 3 times last Wednesday, because he supposedly was nervous regarding the kidnapping. My client is a stomach patient and therefore takes medicine that- in combination with the chemical substance in the paint- made him sick, says Domingo.
Ryan has no full alibi for that Saturday night. “If he was at home at 01.30 that night of still going out he does not know exactly, but he was certainly not at the crime scene. According to the mother and brother of Ryan, he behaved normally after that Saturday night. He –as usual- visited us Sunday morning and was happy as always, until he was dragged by the Police out of his car”.

‘Allemaal leugens over Ryan’
Door PETER DE KNEGT
BONAIRE - ‘Hij zou niet zijn gaan werken nadat die vrouw is verdwenen in het weekend? Onzin. Hij is gewoon brood komen halen en ik heb hem maandag, dinsdag, woensdag naar zijn werk bij het Plaza hotel gebracht om 7.50 uur.’’
De moeder van Ryan P. , Virginia, gelooft heilig in de onschuld van haar zoon en verwerpt alle ‘leugens en verzinsels’ die over hem de ronde doen op het eiland. In haar kleine, vol familiefoto’s behangen huisje aan de Kaya Amazon volgt ze de hele dag radio, televisie en de kranten. ,,Er klopt niets van. Mijn zoon zou vorige week maandag benzine hebben gekocht in een jerrycan om die mevrouw te verbranden? Onzin! Ik stond met mijn auto stil en heb hem gebeld om benzine te brengen. Dat is het verhaal.’’
,,Mijn auto, die in beslag is genomen voor onderzoek, zou zijn gebruikt om het lichaam te verstoppen? Onzin! De nacht dat die vrouw verdween, had een andere zoon, die als bewaker werkt, van 22.00 uur tot 6.00 uur mijn auto mee.’’
En zo stikt het volgens de moeder en de advocaat van de fabels rond Ryan. ,,Een collega van hem verklaart dat hij woensdag drie keer zou hebben overgegeven, omdat hij zenuwachtig was in verband met de ontvoering. Mijn cliënt is maagpatiënt en slikt pillen die in combinatie met de chemische verf hem misselijk maakte,’’ zegt Domingo.
Ryan heeft geen waterdicht alibi voor die zaterdagnacht. ,,Of hij om 1.30 uur al thuis was of nog aan het stappen, weet hij niet precies, maar hij was zeker niet op de plek waar zij is ontvoerd.’’ Volgens zijn moeder en een broer gedroeg Ryan zich normaal na die zaterdagnacht. ,,Hij kwam gewoon zondagochtend op bezoek. Hij was net als altijd blij. Totdat hij donderdag door de politie uit de auto werd gesleurd.’’

Source: Algemeen Dagblad (Oct 1, 2008: 16:45 hrs)
http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2659415/Vriendin_Ryan_kwam_bemodderd_thuis.html

Girlfriend: Ryan came home covered with mud
By PETER DE KNEGT
BONAIRE –The girlfriend of Ryan P. has declared to the Police that Ryan P. came home covered with mud on the night that Marlies van der Kouwe was kidnapped.
The advocate of Ryan –Marga Domingo- forcefully denies this statement. Also Ryan’s mother rejects this story of the “girlfriend that is no good”. Ryan has told his advocate “that he hopes this case will be solved quickly”.
On Bonaire there is a growing feeling that the police has got the wrong man. The first days after the arrest, numerous rumors and accusations were addressed to Ryan P. in the local media and on the streets, but slowly more and more people are starting to doubt this.

Ryan P. is held (with all restrictions) in a cell in Rincon. He is not allowed to have any contact with the outside world; his mother has also still not seen him. “The police has asked me if I wanted to see him, but they will have to pick me up since they have confiscated my car for investigation”, said the mother of the suspect.
Domingo is visiting her client on a daily basis. “I find him a decent client”. Although Domingo thinks Ryan will be released this Friday, she still takes into account the possibility that the Police judge (Rechter Commissaris) will hold Ryan in to custody for another 8 days given the serious matter and the shocked sense of justice of the community of Bonaire. At this moment, DNA traces are being researched at Curacao. Domingo: “normally this takes some time at Bonaire, but given the serious circumstances of this case hopefully they will speed up”.

Domingo also represents the man who tried to kidnap the 8-year daughter of the well known inhabitant of Bonaire Wout van der Kouwen.

Although there is similarity of the surnames (Marlies van der Kouwe, van Kouwen), the fact that his blonde 17 year old daughter is also living on the island, a ransom demand that was given by phone before Marlies van der Kouwe was kidnapped and the fact that van Kouwen is a well know figure in the criminal scene, Domingo does not believe that the attempt of kidnapping by her other client is connected with a possible switch of persons. “The man that tried to kidnap the 8-year old is absolutely not mentally capable to demand a ransom”.

The search for Marlies will be notwithstanding continued the coming days


Vriendin: Ryan kwam bemodderd thuis
Door PETER DE KNEGT
BONAIRE - De vriendin van Ryan P. heeft bij de politie verklaard dat Ryan P. in de nacht dat Marlies van der Kouwe werd ontvoerd ‘onder de modder en in de war’ thuiskwam. Volgens Ryans’ advocaat Marga Domingo ontkent Ryan deze lezing met kracht. Ook Ryans moeder verwerpt het verhaal ‘van die vriendin die niet deugt’. Ryan heeft tegen Domingo gezegd dat hij hoopt ‘dat de zaak snel wordt opgelost’.
Op Bonaire begint het gevoel dat de politie de verkeerde man heeft te pakken met de dag te groeien. De eerste dagen na zijn aanhouding buitelden geruchten en beschuldigingen aan zijn adres over elkaar heen in de lokale media en op straat, nu veel van de geruchten ontkracht lijken te worden, slaat de twijfel toe.

Ryan P. zit in ‘alle beperkingen’ vast in de cel in Rincon. Hij mag geen enkel contact met de buitenwereld hebben. Ook zijn moeder heeft hem nog steeds niet gesproken. ,,De politie heeft wel gevraagd of ik hem wil zien, maar dan moeten ze mij wel ophalen, want ze hebben mijn auto in beslag genomen voor onderzoek,’’ aldus Virginia Maria Pietersz.
Domingo bezoekt haar cliënt dagelijks. ,,Ik vindt hem een prettige cliënt in de omgang.’’ Alhoewel Domingo ervan uitgaat dat Ryan vrijdag vrijkomt, houdt ze er wel rekening mee dat de rechter commissaris hem toch nog acht dagen vast kan houden wegens de ernst van de zaak en het geschokte rechtsgevoel in de Bonairiaanse samenleving. Op dit moment worden op Curaçao veilig gestelde DNA-sporen onderzocht. Domingo: ,,Meestal duurt dat op Bonaire erg lang, maar misschien maken ze in deze ernstige zaak wat meer vaart.''

Domingo verdedigt ook de man die vorige week probeerde het 8-jarige dochtertje van de in Nederland zeer bekende Wout van Kouwen op Bonaire te ontvoeren.

Ondanks de bijna gelijkluidende achternamen (Marlies Van der Kouwe, Van Kouwen), het gegeven dat hij een blonde 17-jarige dochter op het eiland heeft wonen, een losgeldeis die voor de ontvoerde Marlies bij Wout van Kouwen binnenkwam per telefoon én het gegeven dat Van Kouwen een grote bekende is in de onderwereld, gelooft Domingo niet dat de poging tot ontvoering door haar andere cliënt verband houdt met een mogelijke persoonsverwisseling.

,,De man die het meisje van acht wilde ontvoeren is absoluut niet mentaal in staat om bijvoorbeeld losgeld te eisen.’’ De zoektocht naar Marlies gaat ook de komende dagen onverminderd voort.

Thursday 02 okt 2008, 05:30
Source: De telegraaf
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2084608/__Rayan_wilde_kleren_direct_wassen__.html

Rayan wanted to wash his clothes immediately
By John van den Heuvel en Bert Huisjes
KRALENDIJK (Bonaire) – The Police and justice of Bonaire are -at high pace- gathering evidence that main suspect Rayan P. is involved with the disappearance of Marlies van der Kouwe.
The investigation team confiscated the clothes of the suspect in the house of his 16-yer old girlfriend Shanti. She told to the police that Rayan came home covered with mud and that “he was very upset”.
She earlier already declared that Rayan was not with her during the whole night. She furthermore declared that the suspect on Sunday “wanted to wash his clothes immediately”.
She also told the police that he was very upset. Forensic investigators have confiscated & secured the clothes immediately. They hope that traces can be found.
Also the car of the suspect’s niece –a dark blue Toyota Scarlet- was taken into custody. The car has been forensically searched for traces of the Dutch pharmacy assistant.
The police have been searching the last couple of days for a black or dark car.
The police have also gathered statements of colleagues of the suspect. They declared that Rayan behaved very nervously after the dissaperance.
Supposedly he threw up several times that day. The police searched the home of his 16-year-old girlfriend, but also the home of his niece, Rayan’s mother and his Uncles and Aunt’s place. His mother fully supports Rayan. According to her, her son was ill of the medication he took. Several witnesses saw him buy –completely upset- a jerry can, but she says this was for her car, nothing else.
The police has heard the niece of Rayan yesterday and searched her home. This niece was driving –at the time of the arrest- with Rayan in the car of the 16-year old girlfriend. Furthermore, the car of the mother – red pick up truck- was also investigated. His mother claims that her son is innocent, not only from the accusations of this kidnap, but also for the earlier crimes of which he was sentenced to prison even to the level of the supreme court. The girlfriend she calls “crazy” and she stated hat her son acted absolutely normal the last days. The advocate of Rayan stated that she expects Rayan to be released tomorrow.

Custody
The justice department will ask to extend the custody of the suspect, given the progress that is made in the case. On the small island the police searched on several locations for Marlies van der Kouwe, but with no result.

Rayan Pieters wilde kleren direct wassen
door John van den Heuvel en Bert Huisjes
KRALENDIJK (Bonaire) - Politie en justitie op Bonaire vergaren in hoog tempo aanwijzingen dat de hoofdverdachte Rayan Pieters betrokken is bij de verdwijning van de Nederlandse Marlies van der Kouwe.
Het rechercheteam heeft kleren in beslag genomen van de verdachte in de woning van zijn 16-jarige vriendin Shanti. Zij heeft verklaard dat haar vriend in de nacht van de kidnap "bemodderd" thuiskwam. Ook was hij erg van streek.
Zij stelde eerder al dat hij een deel van de avond en nacht niet bij haar was. De 16-jarige vriendin heeft verder verklaard dat de verdachte op zondag "direct de kleren wilde wassen". Forensische onderzoekers hebben gisteren onmiddellijk deze kleren veiliggesteld. Zij hopen dat wellicht sporen kunnen worden gevonden.
Ook is de auto van zijn nicht Rayen, een donkerblauwe Toyota Starlet, voor onderzoek ingenomen. Deze is forensisch onderzocht op sporen van de Nederlandse apothekersassistente. De politie zoekt al dagen naar een zwarte of donkere auto.
De politie vergaarde ook verklaringen bij collega's van de verdachte, die eveneens werkzaam zijn bij het Plaza Hotel. Ook daaruit komt het beeld naar voren dat Rayan na de verdwijning een uiterst gespannen en verwarde indruk maakte. Zo zou hij gedurende de dag meermalen hebben lopen overgeven.
Bij de 16-jarige vriendin is huiszoeking verricht, net als bij de nicht, Rayans moeder en zijn oom en tante. De moeder van Pieters heeft zich inmiddels vierkant achter haar zoon geschaard. Haar zoon zou ziek zijn geweest van de medicijnen die hij slikt. Een jerrycan met benzine die hij volgens getuigen maandag - "geheel van streek" - kocht, zou volgens haar bestemd zijn voor haar auto.
De politie heeft gisteren de nicht van Rayan Pieters gehoord, en haar woning doorzocht. Deze Rayen Trinidat reed tijdens de arrestatie met Rayan in de auto van de 16-jarige vriendin. Verder is de auto van de moeder, een rode pick-uptruck, onderworpen aan onderzoek. Volgens haar is hij onschuldig aan deze kidnap, maar ook aan de eerdere zedenmisdrijven waarvoor hij tot in hoger beroep is veroordeeld. De vriendin van haar zoon noemt zij "gek". Volgens haar was aan haar zoon juist helemaal niets te merken. De advocaat van Rayan Pieters stelde gisteren dat hij ervan overtuigd is dat de hoofdverdachte morgen vrijkomt.

Voorarrest
Justitie zal overigens vragen zijn voorarrest te verlengen, gezien de vordering in het onderzoek. Op het kleine eiland werd gisteren opnieuw op verschillende plaatsen naar Marlies van der Kouwe gezocht maar zonder resultaat.

In the recent posted translations from AD and Telegraaf I missed the article below. I think it has important information so I made a translation. Although it is by now 2 days old it may still be relevant.

Note of the translator: The article, posted and translated earlier titled ‘All lies about Ryan’ (Wednesday, October 1, 2008 6:14) http://www.oldbonairetalk.com/cgi-local/bbs/show.cgi?tpc=36&post=519898#POST519898 is merged by AD with this article. So that part of the article is not translated again and left out.
Source: http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2657383/lsquoSignalement_verdachte_klopt_nietrsquo.html

dinsdag 30 september 2008 ‘Signalement verdachte klopt niet’ Door PETER DE KNEGT

KRALENDIJK - Het signalement dat een Bonairiaanse bewaker van de ontvoerder van Marlies van der Kouwe heeft gegeven, klopt van geen kant met het uiterlijk en de kleding van de opgepakte P. Verder is de politie ook na een week onderzoek en verhoren nog met geen enkel hard bewijs gekomen dat duidt op betrokkenheid van P. bij de verdwijning van de Nederlandse op Bonaire.

Dat verklaart Marga Domingo, de advocaat van P. in een gesprek met het AD op Bonaire. Het is voor het eerst dat de advocaat naar buiten treedt over haar ‘volledig ontkennende’ cliënt.

,,Hij zegt het niet te hebben gedaan en de vrouw absoluut niet te kennen. Op basis van wat er nu ligt, verwacht ik dat hij vrijdag weer vrij man is. Ik ben ook zelf nog geen enkel incriminerend feit in het dossier tegengekomen,’’ stelt de advocaat.

De bewaker die de ontvoering van de nog altijd spoorloze Marlies heeft gezien, heeft verklaard dat de man een zwart jack en zwarte jeans droeg. ,,Mijn cliënt droeg die avond een driekwart blauwe jeans en een strak wit-blauw shirt.

Hij is ook geen 1,80 meter zoals wordt gezegd, en had geen krullen achter in zijn nek. Hij droeg en draagt zijn haar in vlechtjes met een dreadlock of maton, zoals dat hier heet. Hij verklaart stellig dat hij niet op de ontvoeringsplek is geweest.’’

De uit Leusden afkomstige Marlies van der Kouwe, die op Bonaire stage liep, is sinds 22 september spoorloos.

[Commentaar vertaler: hier start het al geposte en vertaalde gedeelte ‘Allemaal leugens over Ryan’]

Tuesday september 30 2008 ‘Discription suspect is wrong’ By PETER DE KNEGT

KRALENDIJK - The description that a Bonarian guard has given of the kidnapper of Marlies van der Kouwe, does not match the looks and clothes of the arrested P at all.
Furthermore, after a week of investigation an interrogations, the police still has not showed any solid proof that indicates involvement of P. in the disappearance of the disappearance of the Dutchwoman on Bonaire.

That states Marga Domingo, the attorney of P. in an interview with AD on Bonaire. It is for the first time that the attorney goes public about her ‘completely denying’ client.

‘He says he did not do it and absolutely does not knows the woman’. Based on where we are now, I expect him at to be a free man on Friday. I myself has not encountered any incriminating fact in the dossier’ states the attorney.

The guard, who has seen the kidnapping of the still disappeared Marlies, has testified that the man wore a black jacket and black jeans. ‘My client wore a three quarters blue jeans and a tight white shirt.

He also is not 1,80 meters as is said, and had no curls in the back of his neck. He wore and wears his hair in braid with a dreadlock or maton as it is called here. He states definite that he has not been at the place of the kidnapping.’

The from Leusden originating Marlies van Kouwe, who did a work placement on Bonaire, is missing without a trace since September 22.
[Note translator: at this point starts the already posted and translated part ‘Allemaal leugens over Ryan’]

Due to interference of real life (even I have a paying job) I didn't post messages from several of our readers. I will post those messages below. As mentioned earlier, we are grateful for the translations and for sending us these messages.

Martin

Source: Hart van Nederland
http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/13831/Verdachte_in_zaak_Marlies_langer_vast
Published on 03/10/08 17.17

Extended custody of suspect kidnapping Marlies van der Kouwe
Rayan P., the main suspect of the Marlies van der Kouwe case, will be held in custody for another 8 days. The police spokesmen announced today on Bonaire. P was arrested last Thursday. A girlfriend of P. Stated that he came home covered with mud on the night of the disappearance. The police would not given any information at this moment. The handbag of Marlies has not been found yet.

Verdachte in zaak Marlies langer vast
Rayan P, hoofdverdachte in de verdwijningszaak van de Nederlandse Marlies van der Kouwe, blijft nog acht dagen vast zitten. Dit maakte een woordvoerder van de politie op Bonaire vrijdag bekend.

P. wordt sinds vorige week donderdag vastgehouden. Een vriendin van P. verklaarde dat hij op de nacht van de verdwijning verward en onder de modder was thuisgekomen. De politie wil op dit moment niets loslaten over de zaak. De tas van Marlies is nog niet gevonden.

Door PETER DE KNEGT Algemeen Dagblad http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2670862/Justitie_Bonaire_ontkent_blunders.html

The main suspect in the kidnapcase of Marlies van der Kouwe, shouldn’t be already released now.

Justice blunderded in 2002 with their charge in a case of rape, by forgetting to demand the judge to put on a conditional retribution for Ryan P. in a real prisoning, That’s what his 2002 rapevictim is saying.

The involved d.a., Ernst Wesselius, denies the blunder and says that he surely considered the conditional retribution in his charge. In appeal Ryan was centenced for eight years of prison. About nine months ago he was released.

“ If Ryan was still in prison, Marlies wasn’t kidnapped, disappeared en killed”, says the victim, who is convinces of Ryan’s guilt. The woman was raped by Ryan in 2001, So judged the court in February 2002. He was just released three months earlier from another case of crime. For that crime he was sentenced for 2 years, with eleven months imprisonment and a two year probationary period. That probation ended in November 2002.

Ernst Wesselius:” I indeed considered Ryan’s conditional sentence. I treated thousands cases in mu 30 year career, but this case is even still in my dreams every day. It touches me deeply. I very clearly put higher charges considering the seriousness of the facts, the circumstances, the suspect, the greeve he caused and his probation.”

Accourding to him you can’t tell if Ryan still was prisoned if he asked ro put his conditional sentence in imprisonment, because you never can be sure how a judge judges. Besides, prisoners can also earn bonuspoints for earlier release. What that woman states is a false security.

Ryan P’s attorney, Aldebert Rooijer, puts that the District Arrorney often forget to let a conditional sentence be executed. “But it is not our job to point their failure”.




By PETER DE KNEGT Algemeen Dagblad http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2670862/Justitie_Bonaire_ontkent_blunders.html

De hoofdverdachte in de ontvoeringszaak van Marlies van der Kouwe had nog niet op vrije voeten mogen zijn.

Justitie heeft in 2002 geblunderd bij de strafeis in een verkrachtingszaak door de rechter niet te vragen een eerdere voorwaardelijke straf van Ryan P. om te zetten in een echte celstraf. Dat stelt de vrouw die in 2002 door Ryan (27) werd verkracht.

De betrokken officier van justitie, Ernst Wesselius, ontkent de blunder en stelt in zijn strafeis wel degelijk rekening te hebben gehouden met de voorwaardelijke straf. Ryan kreeg voor de verkrachting in hoger beroep acht jaar celstraf. Hij kwam circa negen maanden geleden vrij.

,,Als Ryan nog had vastgezeten, was Marlies nu niet ontvoerd, verdwenen en vermoord,’’ aldus het slachtoffer dat overtuigd is van de schuld van Ryan. De vrouw werd, zo oordeelde de rechtbank in februari 2002, door Ryan P. in 2001 verkracht. Hij was toen net drie maanden vrij vanwege een ander strafbaar feit. Voor dat eerdere vergrijp kreeg hij volgens zijn moeder twee jaar gevangenisstraf waarvan 11 maanden onvoorwaardelijk en een proeftijd van twee jaar. Die proeftijd liep pas in november 2002 af.

Ernst Wesselius: ,,Ik heb wel degelijk rekening gehouden met Ryans eerdere voorwaardelijke straf. Ik heb duizenden zaken gedaan in mijn 30-jarige carrière, maar deze zaak kan ik nog dromen van dag tot dag. Het raakte mij diep. Ik heb bewust een hogere eis gesteld, rekening houdend met de ernst van de feiten, de omstandigheden, de verdachte, het leed dat is berokkend en met zijn proeftijd.’’

Volgens hem is niet te zeggen of Ryan nog had vastgezeten als hij toen had gevraagd de straf om te zetten in een onvoorwaardelijke straf, omdat nooit zeker is hoe een rechter oordeelt. ,,Bovendien kunnen gevangenen bonuspunten verdienen en zo eerder vrijkomen. Wat die mevrouw stelt is een schijnzekerheid.’’

De advocaat van Ryan P. in 2002, Aldebert Rooijer, stelt dat ‘het Openbaar Ministerie wel vaker vergeet een voorwaardelijke straf te laten uitvoeren’. ,,Maar wij zijn er niet voor om op dat verzuim te wijzen.’’

Source: http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2666717/Ouders_vermiste_Van_der_Kouwe_doen_oproep.html

Parents of missing Van der Kouw do call
KRALENDIJK - The parents of the missing Bonaire Marlies van der Kouw call on everyone who knows anything of her disappearance to notify the police. That they open Friday in a letter to know.

Marlies van der Kouw. PHOTO ANP
This is the first time since their daughter disappeared two weeks ago that the parents something of themselves heard. In the letter they prices by the media that they have left them alone. , "It is incredibly important for us at this difficult time in peace and freedom here on Bonaire the disappearance of our daughter can process'', they write.
They also thank the many people on Bonaire and beyond for the support and sympathy. ,, It is fine for us to note that finding Marlies for so many people so much is worth. Marlies was born in the Antilles. Her whole life she felt themselves Bonairiaanse and there she was proud of. After a vacation on Bonaire in 2002, they certainly knew that they ever wanted to turn back for a long time. Three weeks before her disappearance was her dream. Unfortunately, it may take three weeks ...''
Excellent captured
In addition, they know that they are perfectly captured by the police. , "We have daily contact with the state of affairs and know that a large group of Antillean and Dutch police day and night people are engaged in the search for Marlies. We are very impressed with their great expertise and commitment not fail.''
Van der Kouw disappeared in the night of Saturday, September 20. They drove at night on Bonaire on a bike and a scooter would be included. Since then, lacking any trace of the woman.

(ANP)

Ouders vermiste Van der Kouwe doen oproep
KRALENDIJK - De ouders van de op Bonaire vermiste Marlies van der Kouwe roepen iedereen op die iets weet van haar verdwijning dat te melden aan de politie. Dat hebben zij vrijdag in een open brief laten weten.

Marlies van der Kouwe. FOTO ANP
Het is voor het eerst sinds hun dochter twee weken geleden verdween dat de ouders iets van zich laten horen. In de brief prijzen zij de media dat zij door hen met rust zijn gelaten. ,, Het is voor ons ongelooflijk belangrijk om in deze moeilijke tijd in alle rust en vrijheid hier op Bonaire de verdwijning van onze dochter te kunnen verwerken'', schrijven ze.
Ook bedanken zij de vele mensen op Bonaire en daarbuiten voor de steun en medeleven. ,,Het is fijn voor ons te merken dat het vinden van Marlies voor zo veel mensen zo veel waard is. Marlies is geboren op de Antillen. Haar hele leven voelde ze zich Bonairiaanse en daar was ze trots op. Na een vakantie op Bonaire in 2002 wist ze zeker dat ze ooit terug wilde keren voor langere tijd. Drie weken voor haar verdwijning werd haar droom verwezenlijkt. Helaas heeft het maar drie weken mogen duren...''
Uitstekend opgevangen
Verder laten zij weten dat zij uitstekend zijn opgevangen door de politie. ,,We hebben dagelijks contact over de gang van zaken en weten dat een grote groep Antilliaanse en Nederlandse politiemensen zich dag en nacht bezighoudt met het zoeken naar Marlies. We zijn erg onder de indruk van hun grote deskundigheid en niet nalatende inzet.''
Van der Kouwe verdween in de nacht van zaterdag 20 september. Ze reed 's nachts op Bonaire op een fiets en zou op een scooter zijn meegenomen. Sindsdien ontbreekt elk spoor van de vrouw.

(ANP)

>From de Telegraaf, a Dutch newspaper with a relatively high gossip-%.



(Friday 10-10-2008, 22:25)



Again an arrest on Bonaire.



By John van den Heuvel en Bert Huisjes



Kralendijk (Bonaire) Police has arrested Friday a second suspect in the
case of the disappearance of the 24-year-old Marlies van der Kouwe. This was
told by sources around the investigation team.

An arresting team on Bonaire arrested a man in the neighbourhood of Niki
Boko on the island. It is the 19 year old Siegmar Marchena mostly known
under his nickname "Kucho" on Bonaire.

The team went into the house of the family of the man. When he was arrested
the family of the suspect offered resistance.

The house was immediately sealed for forensic research. The flown-in
tracker-dogs were also used at that location, as witnesses stated. End of
the week extra police-personnel and a special arrest-team were flown in.



The second suspect is a friend of Ryan P. (Rayan P.) They lived together in
the same house. The search goes on for a black car, that supposedly played
an important role in the kidnapping of Marlies van der Kouwe.



Siegmar is seen by the police as a possible accomplice for the making
disappear of the body of Marlies van der Kouwe. They suppose she is not
alive anymore.



It is three weeks ago that the pharmacist-assistance disappeared
mysteriously on the island. She was tugged from her bike, nearly in front of
her apartment. The custody of the provisional main suspect was prolonged
Thursday with another eight days.



Up to now Rayan Pieters, who was convicted for hostage-taking and rape
before, has only committed he knew Marlies. He was also in her vicinity on
the evening of her disappearance, and according to him "something" had
happened between them.



The investigation on Bonaire is made much more difficult because of the
tight family-ties on the island. Just since this week it is possible to
mention tips anonymously by telephone on Bonaire.



On the island searches have been done this week on several sites. The
investigation was hampered because of heavy rainfall. This wiped away all
tracks in the loose soil.



"The soil changes here in mud after heavy rainfall, and later in a concrete
plate" says a source around the investigation. "When her body hasn't been
washed free, it will be very difficult to find her."

De Telegraf
has an article at
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2167050/__Opnieuw_arrestatie_op_Bonaire__.html?p=1,1

It reports that a second suspect, Siegmar Marchena, was arrested Friday
afternoon. He is a friend of the original suspect, Rayan Pietersz, and
lives in the same house with him. Police are still searching for the
black car involved in the disappearance.

Marchena has been identified as a possible accomplice in the
disappearance. The police have accepted that Marlies is no longer living.

From the Amigo

KRALENDIJK - In het onderzoek naar de verdwijning van Marlies van der Kouwe
werd gistermiddag omstreeks drie uur de 19-jarige verdachte S.I.F.M.
aangehouden.

Hij is de tweede verdachte die aangehouden wordt in deze zaak. Op 25
september is de eerste verdachte Ryan P. aangehouden. Direct na de
aanhouding heeft de politie gistermiddag in een woning in Nikiboko
huiszoeking gedaan. Daarnaast zijn in de loop van donderdag en vrijdag
gedurende de ochtend- en middaguren zoekacties verricht met speurhonden op
diverse plekken op het eiland. Het onderzoek duurt voort.

Tips
Tips vanuit de bevolking blijven volgens de politie welkom. Personen die
denken over informatie te beschikken die betrekking kan hebben op de zaak
worden opgeroepen deze gegevens vooral te melden bij de recherche via
telefoonnummer 717-8555 of 911 (24 uur per dag). Ook is er een anonieme
lijn: 717-7251.

vr 10 okt 2008, 22:25
*New arrest on Bonaire*
By John van den Heuvel en Bert Huisjes
KRALENDIJK (Bonaire) -- The Police has arrested a second suspect in the
investigation to the disappearance of the 24-year old Marlies van der
Kouwe as was reported by sources close to the investigation team.
The police team arrested a man in the Niki Boko area on the island. It
is the 19-year-old man Siegmar M., known by his nickname Kucho on
Bonaire. The team searched the premises of the family of them man. The
family resisted during the arrest. The premises were immediately closed
for forensic investigation. Also search dogs were involved in the search
as was reported by witnesses. At the end of the week a special arrest
team and additional police forces were flown in from Curacao. The second
suspect is a friend of the first suspect Rayan P. They lived together in
the same house. The police are still searching for a black car, which
supposedly played an imported role in the kidnapping of Marlies van der
Kouwe.
The police sees Siegmar as a possible partner in crime related to the
kidnapping of Marlies van der Kouwe. General thought is that she is no
longer is alive.
Three weeks have past since the pharmacy assistant disappeared
mysteriously from the island. She was pulled from her bike, in front of
her apartment. The custody of the main suspect Ryan P. was extended by 8
days last Thursday.
Up until know Rayan P. --earlier convicted for kidnapping and rape- only
admitted that he knew Marlies. At the night of the disappearance he was
in the same area and declared "something happened between them" that night.
The close family ties on the island trouble the investigation. Only as
from this week it is possible to report anonymously tips to the police
by phone.
Several searches took place this week on the island. The heavy rainfall
seriously troubled the investigation. It has erased all traces in the
rough soil. "The spoil changes from mud into concrete after the heavy
rainfall" according to a source close to the investigation team. "If her
body is not exposed by the rainfall, it will be very difficult to find her".


vr 10 okt 2008, 22:25
*Opnieuw arrestatie op Bonaire*
door John van den Heuvel en Bert Huisjes
KRALENDIJK (Bonaire) - De politie op Bonaire heeft vrijdag een tweede
verdachte aangehouden in het onderzoek naar de verdwijning van de
24-jarige Marlies van der Kouwe. Dat melden bronnen rond het
onderzoeksteam.Door een arrestatieteam is op Bonaire een man aangehouden
in de wijk Niki Boko op het eiland. Het gaat om de 19-jarige Siegmar
Marchena, die vooral onder zijn bijnaam Kucho bekend is op Bonaire. Het
team viel binnen bij de familie van de man. Bij de aanhouding werd
verzet gepleegd door familieleden. De woning is direct afgegrendeld voor
forensisch onderzoek. Ook werden de ingevlogen speurhonden ingezet op de
locatie, zo melden getuigen. Eind van de week werd vanaf Curacao al
extra politiemensen en een speciaal arrestatieteam ingevlogen.
De tweede verdachte is een vriend van Rayan P. Zij woonden samen in
hetzelfde huis. Ook wordt nog steeds gezocht naar een zwarte auto, die
een belangrijke rol zou hebben gespeeld bij de ontvoering van Marlies
van der Kouwe. Siegmar wordt door de politie aangemerkt als een
mogelijke medeplichtige bij het laten verdwijnen van het lichaam van
Marlies van der Kouwe. Aangenomen wordt dat zij niet meer in leven is.
Het is drie weken geleden dat de apothekersassistente op mysterieuze
verdween op het eiland. Zij werd van de fiets getrokken, vlak voor haar
appartement. Het voorarrest van de voorlopige hoofdverdachte Rayan
Pieters werd donderdag verlengd voor nog eens acht dagen.
Tot op heden heeft Rayan Pieters, die eerder werd veroordeeld voor
gijzeling en verkrachting, alleen toegegeven dat hij Marlies kende. Ook
was hij op de avond van de verdwijning in de buurt en er was volgens hem
tussen hen eerder "iets" voorgevallen.
Het onderzoek op Bonaire wordt zeer bemoeilijkt door de nauwe
familiebanden op het eiland. Pas sinds deze week is het mogelijk om op
Bonaire anoniem tips door te geven per telefoon. Op het eiland is ook
deze week nog op diverse plaatsen gezocht. Het onderzoek is echter
ernstig bemoeilijkt vanwege zware regenval. Die heeft alle sporen
weggewist in de rulle bodem.
"De aarde verandert hier bij zware regen eerst in modder, en daarna in
een soort betonplaat", zegt een bron rond het onderzoek. "Als haar
lichaam niet is blootgespoeld wordt het heel moeilijk haar nog te vinden."

Sunday 12 okt 2008, 19:40
Source:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2176053/__Derde_verdachte_zaak_Marlies_gepakt__.html?p=16,1
*
Third suspect arrest in case Marlies van der Kouwe*
KRALENDIJK -- The police --last Sunday night, local time- has arrested a
third suspect related to the disappearance of Marlies van der Kouwe.
Marlies van der Kouwe disappeared three weeks on a Saturday night ago
after a night out. Suspect Rayan P. is held in custody as main suspect
of the kidnapping case. According to the local media the new suspect is
the 37-year old brother of P. The 19-year old Siegmar M. was arrested
last Friday. He supposedly lived in the house of the grandmother of P.,
where Rayan frequently stayed as well. The police search the island
continuously, with the help of trained dogs. The Justice department
said, "to be very thankful for the support given by the local people of
Bonaire".
The people of Bonaire are requested to keep giving information related
to the case. The police stated that information given by the local
people helps tremendously to solve the case.

*Derde verdachte aangehouden in de zaak Marlies*
KRALENDIJK - De politie op Bonaire heeft zondagochtend (lokale tijd)
een derde verdachte aangehouden in de verdwijningszaak van de
Nederlandse apothekersassistente Marlies van der Kouwe. Marlies van der
Kouwe verdween drie weken geleden op een zaterdagavond na het uitgaan.
Verdachte Ryan P. wordt al geruime tijd vastgehouden in verband met de
verdwijning. Volgens lokale media is de nieuwe, 37-jarige verdachte een
broer van P. De 19-jarige Siegmar M. is vrijdag aangehouden. Hij zou in
het huis van de oma van P. hebben gewoond, waar P. ook regelmatig verbleef.
De politie op Bonaire verricht voortdurend zoekacties naar Marlies met
behulp van speurhonden. Het Openbaar Ministerie en de politie zeiden
zondag 'zeer dankbaar' te zijn voor de hulp die ze van de lokale
bevolking tot nu toe hebben ontvangen.
De bevolking van Bonaire wordt opgeroepen informatie te blijven geven.
Volgens de politie helpen tips van de inwoners heel goed om de zaak op
te lossen.

Source:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2173797/__Column_John_van_den_Heuvel__.html
Last part translated of Column by John van den Heuvel (Crime
journalist): full column can be read via URL above

Last week I wrote about the financial “damage” the parents of Marlies
van der Kouwe are suffering. Besides the grieve, the parents are also
worried by the rising expenses of their stay on the island. Many of you
reacted heartwarming. Meanwhile this problem has been solved.
Furthermore is seems that the investigation team has come closer to
solving the case. There has been a new arrest and a source close to the
investigation reported to me that a breakthrough is close at hand.
The forensic team especially makes the progress in the investigation.
Let’s hope this is true, I sincerely hope for the parents of Marlies
clarity is given on the fait of her daughter.

Vorige week schreef ik over de financiële schade die de ouders van
Marlies op Bonaire ondervonden. Naast het verdriet om hun dochter
maakten ze zich ook zorgen over de oplopende verblijfskosten. Velen van
u reageerden hartverwarmend. Inmiddels is dit probleem voor de ouders
opgelost.
Verder lijkt het erop dat de recherche weer een stapje verder is
gekomen. Er is een nieuwe arrestatie en van een bron dicht bij het
onderzoek hoorde ik dat een doorbraak nabij is.
De vorderingen in het onderzoek zouden vooral door de technische
recherche zijn geboekt. Laten we hopen dat het waar is, want wat gun ik
de ouders van Marlies duidelijkheid over het lot van hun dochter.

Monday October 13, 2008 18:21 hrs.
Source: http://www.rtvutrecht.nl/nieuws/199055 (ANP)

Mother of suspects in case Marlies is unaware
KRALENDIJK- The mother of Rayan (27) and Vincent (37) P, suspects in the kidnapping case of Marlies van der Kouwe, told on Monday that she is unaware on which grounds her oldest son has been arrested. Sunday morning he was arrested at the house of his mother where Vincent also lives. Mother and son were both still sleeping.
“The police promised to call me, but I haven’t heard anything about Vincent. I’ve seen Rayan a week and a half ago at the police station. He doesn’t say a word”, said the mother of Ryan to the ANP (press agency). “And I haven’t got my car back either. The police confiscated it three weeks ago.”
Vincent –at the time of the arrest- was unemployed. He was working in the security at his Uncle, but got fired because he wanted to take some vacation days. The custody of Rayan was extended for the second time by 8 days last Friday. This week the Judge has to decide if the custody is extended again. The advocates of Rayan and Vincent did not comment.


Moeder verdachten zaak-Marlies weet van niets
KRALENDIJK - De moeder van Ryan (27) en Vincent (37) P., verdachten in de verdwijningszaak van de Leusdense Marlies van der Kouwe op Bonaire, zei maandag dat ze niet weet op welke gronden haar oudste zoon Vincent is opgepakt.
Zondagochtend werd hij door de politie opgehaald bij het huis van zijn moeder, waar Vincent ook woont. Moeder en zoon lagen nog te slapen.
"De politie zou mij bellen, maar ik heb nog niks gehoord over Vincent. Ryan heb ik anderhalve week geleden voor het laatst gezien op het politiebureau. Hij zegt niks", aldus de moeder tegenover het ANP. "En mijn auto heb ik ook nog steeds niet terug. Die heeft de politie drie weken geleden in beslag genomen."
Vincent had op het moment van zijn arrestatie geen werk. Hij was beveiliger bij zijn oom, maar werd daar ontslagen omdat hij vakantiedagen wilde opnemen toen zijn broer Ryan werd opgepakt. Het voorarrest van Ryan is vrijdag voor de tweede keer met acht dagen verlengd. Deze week moet de rechter-commissaris beslissen of
het voorarrest opnieuw wordt verlengd. De advocaten van Ryan en Vincent geven geen commentaar.

DutchNews.com

Source: the Algemeen Dagblad
http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2692368/Bewoners_Bonaire_gaan_eindelijk_praten.html

Inhabitants of Bonaire are finally giving information
By Peter de Knegt
BONAIRE – the inhabitants of Bonaire are- three weeks after the disappearance of the pharmacy assistant Marlies van der Kouwe- finally giving possibly usable information. This happens on the regularly police telephone line as well as the anonymous tip line that the investigation team recently introduced.
Spokesman Reggi Huggins on Bonaire is happy with this development he reported yesterday evening to the Algemeen Dagblad.
“At first, the kidnapping of Marlies van der Kouwe was not something that concerned the people of Bonaire directly, but that has changed. We are very happy with the tips and information that is now coming in. The suspects are interrogated intensively, but there are no confessions yet”.
Huggings emphasizes that the arrest of Rayans’ friend –the 19-year old unemployed Siegmar M., and his brother Vincent- are definitely not a breakthrough in the case. “It is a next step in the investigation process, but definitely not a breakthrough to the disappearance of Marlies and possibly we can get closer to the solution after the search of the premises and other searches on the island.” On the island still intensively is searched –with trained dogs- after Marlies. Amongst others in the area of the house of the grandmother of the friend of Rayan at Jato Bako.
On which grounds the friend and brother were arrested the spokesman Huggins does not want to comment “because of the ongoing investigation.”
Vincent – the brother of the main suspect Rayan- told the Algemeen Dagblad last week “literally to be sick of the arrest of his brother.” “I can’t eat anymore and do believe that Rayan has nothing to do with the disappearance of the women”, said Vincent. “My brother does not do something like that”. Also the mother of Rayan –Virginia Maria P., that now has 2 sons behind bars-, still believes in the innocence of her boys. The women that earlier intensively spoke with this newspaper does not -after the arrest of her son Vincent- “wants to have anything to do with the press”. “You all write untrue stories about my kids.” Vincent and Siegmar supposedly would have helped Rayan P. with the disappearance of the body of Marlies, so is suspected by the investigation team.
Marlies van der Kouwe (24) disappeared mysteriously after a night out close to her home after being dragged from her bike.

'Bewoners Bonaire gaan eindelijk praten'
Door PETER DE KNEGT
BONAIRE - De bewoners van Bonaire komen, drie weken na de verdwijning van apothekersassistente Marlies van der Kouwe (24), eindelijk naar buiten met mogelijk bruikbare tips. Dat gebeurt zowel via de gewone politielijn als de anonieme tiplijn die het onderzoeksteam op het eiland in het leven heeft geroepen.
Woordvoerder Reggi Huggings op Bonaire is blij met deze ontwikkeling zo vertelde hij gisteravond aan het AD.
,,In eerste instantie was de ontvoering van Marlies van der Kouwe niet een zaak die de eilandbewoners direct aanging, maar dat is nu veranderd. Wij zijn heel blij met de tips en informatie die nu van hen binnenkomt. De verdachten worden inmiddels intensief verhoord, maar er zijn nog geen bekentenissen.’’
Huggings benadrukt dat de arrestaties van Ryan’s vriend, de 19-jarige werkloze Siegmar M., en zijn 37-jarige broer Vincent nog absoluut geen doorbraak betekenen in het onderzoek. ,,Het is een stap in het onderzoek, geen doorbraak, naar de verdwijning van Marlies en mogelijk kunnen wij na huiszoeking en verder speuracties op het eiland dichter bij de oplossing komen.’’ Op het eiland wordt, onder andere met speurhonden, nog steeds intensief gezocht naar Marlies. Onder meer in de buurt van het huisje van de oma van de vriend van Ryan bij Jato Bako.
Op welke gronden de vriend en broer zijn aangehouden wil Huggings niet kwijt ‘in belang van het onderzoek’.
Vincent, de broer van de hoofdverdachte Ryan, vertelde vorige week tegen het AD ‘letterlijk ziek te zijn van de aanhouding van zijn broer’. ,,Ik kan er niet meer van eten en geloof ook helemaal niet dat Ryan met de verdwijning van de vrouw heeft te maken, aldus Vincent. ,,Mijn broer doet zoiets echt niet.’’ Ook de moeder, Virginia Maria Pietersz, van Ryan, die nu twee van haar zoons achter de tralies weet, blijft geloven in de onschuld van haar jongens. De vrouw die eerder uitgebreid met deze krant sprak wil na de arrestatie van haar zoon Vincent ‘niets meer met de pers te maken hebben’. ,,Jullie schrijven allemaal onware dingen over mijn kinderen.’’ Vincent en Siegmar zouden Ryan P. mogelijk hebben geholpen bij het laten verdwijnen van het lichaam van Marlies, zo vermoedt het opsporingsteam.
Marlies van der Kouwe (24) verdween drie weken geleden spoorloos nadat zij na een avondje stappen vlak bij haar huis van haar fiets werd getrokken.

Source:Algemeen Dagblad (http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2694586/Vierde_arrestatie_in_zaak_Marlies.html)
Forth arrest in Marlies van der Kouwe crime case
By Peter de Knegt

BONAIRE – The police has arrested a fourth suspect in the Marlies van der Kouwe crime case.
It is the 30-year old J.R.R. An other suspect –Vincent P. was released this Tuesday. His friend Siegmar and his brother Rayan are still in custody.
Heavy rainfall and wind water sprouts troubled the search of the disappeared Marlies van der Kouwe (24) seriously. Last Monday roofs were blown of houses en several houses were flooded, occupants had to be evacuated. The hotel where police spokesman Reggie Huggins stays was also flooded. “The weather makes the search of Marlies extremely difficult, part of the police force is now being used to help the people of Bonaire.” The spokesman emphasizes that there is still no breakthrough in the case. “The three suspects that were arrested have not made a confession up until know.” Sources close to the investigation team –which is led by Johan Schagen- think that they are ‘on the right track’ with the arrest of the three island inhabitants. After the arrest of Rayan P. –five days after the disappearance of Marlies-, the brother of Rayan, Vincent (37) and a friend of his, Siegmar (19) were arrested last weekend on suspicion of conspiracy to the disappearance of Marlies. The police are strongly depending on the cooperation of the people of Bonaire. They will have to talk know, otherwise the investigation team will have to work with forensic evidence only. The body must be found.
The pharmacy assistant disappeared three weeks ago. She was dragged from her bike –close to her home- after a night out.


Vierde arrestatie in zaak Marlies
Door PETER DE KNEGT

BONAIRE - De politie op Bonaire heeft een vierde verdachte gearresteerd in de zaak van de verdwenen Nederlandse Marlies van der Kouwe (24).Het gaat om de 30-jarige J.R.R.. Een andere verdachte, Vincent P., is dinsdag op vrije voeten gesteld. Diens vriend Siegmar en zijn broer Ryan zitten nog wel in de cel. Regenbuien en windhozen op het tropische eilandje Bonaire bemoeilijken de speurtocht naar de verdwenen Marlies van der Kouwe (24) ernstig.
Daken waaiden maandag van de eilandhuisjes af en verschillende woningen liepen onder water. waarna de bewoners moesten worden geëvacueerd. Ook het hotel waar politiewoordvoerder Reggie Huggings onderdak had liep onder water. ,,Het weer is op dit moment een enorme spelbreker in de zoektocht naar Marlies, een deel van de politiesterkte moet nu worden ingezet voor de hulp aan de bevolking.'' De woordvoerder benadrukt dat er nog steeds geen sprake is van een doorbraak in het onderzoek naar de verdwijning van Marlies. ,,De drie verdachten die we tot nu toe hebben gearresteerd hebben nog geen bekenende verklaringen afgelegd.''
Bronnen dichtij het onderzoek denken dat het onderzoeksteam, onder leiding van Johan Schagen wel op 'het goede spoor zitten' met de aanhouding van dire eilandbewoners. Na de arrestatie van Ryan P. , vijf dagen na de verdwijing van Marlies, werden het afgelopen weekeinde ook de broer van Ryan, Vincent (37) en een vriend van hem Siegmar (19) gearresteerd op verdenking van betrokkenheid bij de verdwijning van Marlies.
,,De politie is echter heel erg afhankelijk van de medewerking van de eilandbewoners. Zij moeten echt gaan praten nu, anders moet het team het uitsluitend doen met de technische bewijsmiddelen. Het lichaam moet gevonden worden.''
De apothekersassistente is nu ruim drie weken zoek. Zij werd na een avondje stappen vlak bij haar huis van haar fiets getrokken.

Source: BN de Stem (http://www.bndestem.nl/algemeen/binnenland/3872926/Moeder-Holloway-wil-contact-met-ouders-Marlies.ece)

Mother of Natalee Holloway wants to contact the parents of Marlies van der Kouwe
Tuesday, October 14; 21:45 hrs.

AMSTERDAM (ANP) - Beth Holloway, the mother of the disappeared American student Natalee Holloway, wants to contact the parents of the also disappeared Marlies van der Kouwe. The mother of Natalee Holloway stated this on Tuesday in the SBS program (Dutch) "Hart van Nederland".
I don't know if this is the appropriate time and even if they want to have contact, but I've been thinking of Marlies all the time", said Holloway by phone in the TV program. The disappearance of Marlies van der Kouwe is now almost a month ago. Natalee Holloway disappeared in May 2005 on Aruba. Her body was never found

Moeder Holloway wil contact met ouders Marlies
dinsdag 14 oktober 2008 | 21:45

AMSTERDAM (ANP) - Beth Holloway, de moeder van de verdwenen Amerikaanse studente Natalee Holloway, wil graag in contact treden met de ouders van de eveneens verdwenen Marlies van der Kouwe. Dat meldde Holloway dinsdag in het SBS-programma Hart van Nederland.
,,Ik weet niet of dit het juiste moment is en of ze dit willen, maar ik denk de hele tijd aan Marlies'', verklaarde Holloway telefonisch in de uitzending. De verdwijning van Marlies van der Kouwe houdt de politie van Bonaire al bijna een maand bezig. Natalee Holloway verdween in mei 2005 na een avondje uit op Aruba. Haar lichaam is nooit teruggevonden.

Source: Algemeen Dagblad (http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2700240/Bonaire_Ryan_P_blijft_vast.html)
Thursday, October 16, 2008

Bonaire: Custody extended of Suspect Rayan P.
Ryan P.(27), the main suspect in the kidnapping of Marlies van der Kouwe, will be held in custody for another 60 days. This was decided by the Judge commissioner yesterday evening. The investigation team still not has reached a breakthrough yet. Beside Ryan P., two other suspects are held in custody. The search to Marlies has been troubled the last days due to the tropical storm that hit the island.

The police keeps emphasizing that information coming the people of Bonaire is more than welcome

Bonaire: Ryan P. blijft vast
Ryan P. (27), de hoofdverdachte in de verdwijningszaak van Marlies van der Kouwe (24) op Bonaire wordt nog 60 dagen langer vastgehouden.
Dat heeft de rechter commissaris gisteravond bepaald. Het onderzoeksteam heeft nog steeds geen doorbraak behaald.
Naast R.P. worden nog twee verdachten vastgehouden. De zoektocht naar Marlies is de afgelopen dagen ernstig bemoeilijkt door een tropische storm die over het eiland raasde.

De politie blijft benadrukken dat tips vanuit de bevolking meer dan welkom zijn .

Saturday October 18, 2008, 05:30 CET
Source:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2224301/__Slecht_voorteken_in_zaak-Marlies__.html

Investigation team orders special coffin
*
Bad omen in case Marlies*
By special reports John van de Heuvel en Bert Huisjes

KRALENDIJK (Bonaire) -- The hope that the disappeared Marlies van der
Kouwe (24) will be found alive has dropped to the absolute minimum.
The investigation team that researches the disappearance has ordered a
special transport coffin from The Netherlands and transported it to
Bonaire. The carefully carbon packed coffin arrived yesterday evening by
KLM flight KL 753 on the airport of Kralendijk.
The Dutch Forensic Institute (NFI) confirmed yesterday that the coffin
was shipped to Bonaire. This led to a huge amount of rumors on the
island because this could imply that the remains of Marlies would have
been found.
Marlies van der Kouwe --who was an intern at a pharmacy store-
disappeared in the night of Saturday September the 20th. Witnesses saw
that around 1.30 a.m. she was dragged from her bike by an unknown man
and transported her on a scooter. The next day the bike and her brown
flip-flop were found in the bushes.
The investigation team yesterday strongly denied that the body or parts
of her body have been found. Last Thursday the custody of the suspect
Rayan P. was extended, but he has not made a confession. The searches to
Marlies van der Kouwe have continued.
According to the spokeswoman of the Forensic Institute the transport is
a preliminary measure. It concerns a special coffin that can transport
the body vacuum by air travel. The parents of Marlies --who are staying
on the island for the weeks-, have been informed yesterday.

*'F***** up'*
The main suspect Rayan P. gave a 'f***** up' impression when he was
taken before the Judge Commissionaire. He was told that his custody was
extended by a maximum of 60 days. At his entrance at the Court building
Rayan P. raised his middle finger. The police team sees the scenario
that Rayan did something to Marlies as the most plausible scenario.
However, other possibilities are taken into consideration as well.
Tomorrow the Telegraaf will give a special report with the latest news
about the disappearance case of Marlies van der Kouwe



Rechercheteam bestelt alvast speciale lijkkist

*Slecht voorteken in zaak-Marlies *
Van onze speciale verslaggevers John van den Heuvel en Bert Huisjes

KRALENDIJK (Bonaire) - De hoop dat de op Bonaire verdwenen Marlies van
der Kouwe (24) nog levend wordt teruggevonden, is tot het nulpunt gedaald.
Het onderzoeksteam dat de verdwijning onderzoekt, heeft gisteren een
zogeheten lijkentransportkist vanuit Nederland naar Bonaire laten
overvliegen. De zorgvuldig in karton verpakte lijkkist arriveerde
gisternacht per KLM-vlucht KL753 op de luchthaven van Kralendijk.
Het Nederlands Forensisch Instituut (NFI) bevestigde gisteren de kist
naar Bonaire te hebben verzonden. Het afgeschermde KLM-transport
veroorzaakte gisteren op het eiland een enorme geruchtenstroom, omdat
het arriveren van de kist erop zou kunnen duiden dat stoffelijke resten
van Marlies zijn teruggevonden.
Marlies van der Kouwe, die op Bonaire stage liep bij een
apothekerswinkel, verdween spoorloos in de nacht van zaterdag 20 september.
Getuigen zagen dat zij rond half twee 's nachts door een onbekende man
van haar fiets werd getrokken en daarna op een scooter werd meegevoerd.
De volgende dag werden de fiets van het meisje en haar bruine slippers
in de bosjes teruggevonden.
Het onderzoeksteam ontkende gisteren met klem dat het lichaam van
Marlies of resten daarvan al zijn aangetroffen. Afgelopen donderdag werd
wel het voorarrest van Rayan Pieters verlengd, maar deze hoofdverdachte
heeft geen bekentenis afgelegd. De zoekacties naar Marlies van der Kouwe
gaan nog altijd door.
Volgens een woordvoerster van het Nederlands Forensisch Instituut is het
transport een voorzorgsmaatregel. Het gaat om een speciale kist, waarmee
een lichaam vacuüm door het luchtruim kan worden vervoerd. De ouders van
Marlies, die al weken op Bonaire verblijven, zijn gisteren op de hoogte
gesteld.
*
Opgefokt*
Hoofdverdachte Rayan Pieters maakte eergisteren bij zijn voorgeleiding
voor de rechter-commissaris een opgefokte indruk. Hij kreeg te horen dat
hij nog maximaal zestig dagen in voorlopige hechtenis moet blijven. Bij
binnenkomst van het gerechtsgebouw stak Pieters zijn middelvinger op.
Het politieteam beschouwt de mogelijkheid dat hij Marlies van der Kouwe
iets heeft aangedaan, als het meest reële scenario. Toch worden ook nog
altijd andere mogelijkheden tegen het licht gehouden.

Morgen in onze krant een exclusieve reportage met ook het laatste nieuws
over de verdwijning van Marlies.

NOS news, October 18, 2008
Source:
http://www.nos.nl/nosjournaal/artikelen/2008/10/18/181008_marlies.html

*** New search on Bonaire***
The police have closed down a piece of land due to the investigation of
the missing Marlies van der Kouwe. Two specialists of the Dutch Forensic
Institute are investigating the territory in the Amboina neighborhood. A
TV-station on Bonaire reported that her body or parts of her body would
have been found and supposidly were exposed by the heavy rains caused by
hurricane Omar. The police contradict this statement.
A press conference was announced for later on today.

*** Beach party ***
The 24-yar old Marlies van der Kouwe disappeared in the night of
September the 20th, after leaving a beach party on her bike heading
home. According to witnesses she was dragged from her bike and taken
away. The Dutch girl was intern a pharmacy store. She stayed in the
Sweet Lemon Resort, a small apartment building in the capital of Kralendijk.
Last weeks the police on Bonaire has arrested several suspects in this
disappearance case. Three suspects are held in custody. The custody of
main suspect Ryan P. was extended last Thursday by 60 days.


*** Nieuwe zoekactie op Bonaire ***
De politie op Bonaire heeft een stuk terrein hermetisch afgesloten
vanwege het onderzoek naar de vermiste Nederlandse Marlies van der Kouwe
(foto: ANP)
De politie op Bonaire heeft een stuk grond op het eiland hermetisch
afgesloten van de buitenwereld vanwege het onderzoek naar de vermiste
Marlies van der Kouwe.
Twee specialisten van het Nederlands Forensich Instituut onderzoeken het
gebied bij de wijk Amboina.
Een tv-station op Bonaire meldde dat er delen van haar lichaam zijn
gevonden, die door het noodweer door de orkaan Omar zijn blootgelegd. De
politie spreekt dat tegen.
Voor later vandaag is een persconferentie aangekondigd.

*** Strandfeestje***
De 24-jarige Marlies van de Kouwe verdween in de nacht van 20 september,
toen zij na een strandfeestje op de fiets naar huis ging. Volgens
getuigen werd zij van haar fiets getrokken en meegenomen. De Nederlandse
liep op Bonaire stage bij een apotheek. Ze verbleef in het Sweet Lemon
Resort, een klein appartementencomplex in de hoofdstad Kralendijk.
De afgelopen weken heeft de politie op Bonaire een aantal arrestaties
verricht in verband met de verdwijning van Marlies.
Er zitten drie verdachten vast. Het voorarrest van hoofdverdachte Ryan
P. werd donderdag met 60 dagen verlengd.

***Marlies has been found***
Body half burried in bushes
By special reporters John van de Heuvel and Bert Huisjes

KRALENDIJK (Bonaire) – The police has found the body of the 2-year old
Marlies van der Kouwe. She was buried in the bushes in the neighborhood
Ambuana. Forensic researchers are now securing her body. The kidnapped
pharmacy assistant (24) disappeared 4 weeks ago when she was dragged
from her bike in front of her apartment. Her body was lying in a shallow
grave; approximately 5 kilometers from were she disappeared.
A team with poles and specially trained dogs found Marlies. The heavy
rains exposed some parts. With her body her credit card and a flip-flop
were found. The family of Marlies was just informed.
The reporters of this newspaper saw yesterday that the police was
driving around with the niece of the main suspect Rayan P (24). She
appeared –in the neighborhood of Ambuana- to give directions from a pick
up truck. At the scene a grave was clearly visible (a few meters from
the road) between two deep puddle pools. Rayan has not confessed yet, as
was stated by sources close to the investigation team. Yesterday evening
they began to dig up her body. The head of Marlies was separated from
her body and has been transported and secured for investigation in the
morgue.
Rayan P. –the earlier was in prison for rape- has been hastily
transported in a military plane to the prison of Curacao. The police
will give an official statement in the coming hours


Marlies gevonden
Lichaam ligt half begraven in bosjes

Van onze speciale verslaggevers John van den Heuvel en Bert Huisjes
KRALENDIJK (Bonaire) -
De politie van Bonaire heeft het lichaam teruggevonden van de 24-jarige
Marlies van der Kouwe. Zij lag begraven in dicht struikgewas bij de wijk
Ambuana. Forensisch onderzoekers stellen nu haar lichaam veilig.
De ontvoerde apothekersassistente (24) verdween op de dag af vier weken
geleden, toen zij bij haar appartement van de fiets werd getrokken. Haar
lichaam ligt in een ondiep graf, op ongeveer vijf kilometer van waar zij
verdween.
Marlies is gevonden door ploeg met speurhonden en prikstokken. Enkele
delen waren bloot gespoeld. Bij haar lichaam werden ook een slipper en
haar pinpassen gevonden. De familie van Marlies is net op de hoogte gesteld.
De verslaggevers van deze krant zagen gisteren dat de politie rondreed
met de nicht van hoofdverdachte Rayan Pieters (24). Zij leek de politie
bij de wijk Ambuana vanuit een pickuptruck aanwijzingen te geven. Ter
plekke was duidelijk een graf zichtbaar op enkele meters van de weg,
tussen twee diepe plassen.
Pieters zelf heeft niet bekend, zeggen bronnen bij de politie.
Gisteravond werd begonnen met het uitgraven van haar lichaam. Het hoofd
van Marlies is gescheiden geraakt van haar romp en is inmiddels veilig
gesteld in het mortuarium.
Rayan Pieters, die eerder jaren vastzat voor gijzeling en verkrachting,
is vannacht om twee uur (lokale tijd) in allerijl met een militair
toestel naar de gevangenis van Curacao overgebracht. Over enkele uren
zal de politie een officiële verklaring afleggen.

***Police reports discovery of body Marlies van der Kouwe***
Published Saturday October 18, 13:36 UTC
Source:
http://www.wereldomroep.nl/news/domestic/6014397/Politie-meldt-vondst-lijk-Marlies-van-der-Kouwe

KRALENDIJK – On Bonaire the body of Marlies van der Kouwe has been
found. The police on Bonaire confirmed this
Yesterday specialists of the Dutch Forensic Institute closed down a
piece of territory on the Antillean Island. The 24-year old pharmacy
assistant disappeared last month when she cycled home after a beach
party. The disappearance of the young women was for weeks the topic of
conversation on the island.
From the first day, searches have been held to a black car that
supposedly had been spotted at the moment of her disappearance. Also for
a long time her bike was searched because witnesses reported that she
would was kidnapped/taken on the back of a scooter. Detectives and
experts from the Netherlands supported police and justice on Bonaire.
Recently three suspects were arrested. There is one main suspect. He and
the tow other suspects are still in custody. Later on today a press
conference will be held on Bonaire regarding the discovery of the body
of Marlies

***Politie meldt vondst lijk Marlies van der Kouwe***
Kralendijk - Op Bonaire is het lichaam van Marlies van der Kouwe
gevonden. Dat is bevestigd door de politie op Bonaire.
De afgelopen dag is op een hermetisch afgesloten stuk grond op het
Antilliaanse eiland gezocht door specialisten van het Nederlands
Forensisch Instituut. De 24-jarige apothekersassistente verdween vorige
maand toen zij na een strandfeestje op de fiets terug naar huis ging. De
verdwijning van de jonge vrouw was wekenlang hét onderwerp van gesprek
op het Antilleneiland.

Vanaf de allereerste dag is onder meer gezocht naar een zwarte auto die
zou zijn gesignaleerd op het moment van haar verdwijning. Ook is lange
tijd naar haar fiets gezocht omdat zij volgens ooggetuigen achterop een
bromscooter zou zijn ontvoerd of meegenomen.Politie en justie op Bonaire
kregen de afgelopen weken ondersteuning van rechercheurs en deskundigen
uit Nederland. Recentelijk zijn drie arrestaties verricht. Er is één
hoofdverdachte. Hij en twee medeverdachten zitten nog vast. Later
vandaag is er een persconferentie op Bonaire over de vondst van het
lichaam van Marlies van der Kouwe.

Dagblad van het Noorden
Source:
http://www.dvhn.nl/nieuws/noorden/drenthe/article3970900.ece/Grootouders_Marlies_in_enorme_spanning
Published on October 18, 2008, 1631 hrs CET

***Grandparents Marlies under tremendous tension***
Under tremendous tension the grandparents of the possible murdered
Marlies van der Kouwe from Groningen (The Netherlands) are waiting on
news from Bonaire. A body has been found, but it is not definitive that
these are the remains of Marlies. “We think it is, but we hope –against
all odds- that is”, said the grandmother Marte van der Kouwe.
For the grandparents these are tremendous difficult times. “We fear the
worst, but until the press conference we can only wait”. What will Marte
en Jan Willem van der Kouwe do if their fear becomes true, they don’t
know. To Bonaire? “That is something we haven’t yet had the time to
consider”.

***Grootouders Marlies in enorme spanning***
In grote spanning wachten de Groninger grootouders van de mogelijk
vermoorde Marlies van der Kouwe op berichten uit Bonaire. Er is een
lichaam gevonden, maar het staat nog niet definitief vast dat het om het
stoffelijk overschot van Marlies gaat. "We denken het wel, maar hopen
tegen beter weten in", zegt oma Marte van der Kouwe.
Vanavond is er een persconferentie op het eiland en zal er meer
duidelijk worden over het gevonden lichaam. "Men gaat er van uit dat het
Marlies is, maar zeker is dat nog niet. Zolang er nog hoop is", verzucht
de grootmoeder.
Voor de grootouders zijn het verschrikkelijk zware uren. "We vrezen het
ergste, maar tot de persconferentie is het afwachten." Wat Marte en Jan
Willem van der Kouwe gaan doen als hun vrees wordt bewaarheid, weten ze
niet. Naar Bonaire? "Daar hebben we nog geen seconde bij stil gestaan."