By Vince DePietro (Bellevue Condos ) (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1172) on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 4:11 pm: |
There will be a massive vote this Sunday on changes that would give an enormous boost to Chavez & give him unprecedented powers. If he wins, Venezuela will be turned into a Cuban style state. Scary since it's so close to Bonaire.
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By ******************Jerry***************** (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #7989) on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 4:25 pm: |
Vince, seems people are protesting in the streets against that King For Life move. This is a dangerous man.
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By Jeff (BonaireTalker - Post #94) on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 9:25 pm: |
Shades of 1930's Germany all over again. This is going to be one dirty election. No international inspectors in the country for this one.
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By BOOM! and then there was Tara (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #5422) on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:17 pm: |
Prayers for the people of Venezuela and the world over.... Sunday will need all good vibes going that direction.
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By Victor Mena (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #154) on Saturday, December 1, 2007 - 12:32 am: |
I am going to vote but I deeply feel we are lost already,if Chavez wins we will have no other choice than migrating just like cubans do.
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By Jim McPeak (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1135) on Saturday, December 1, 2007 - 11:03 am: |
Victor, unfortunately, I feel you are absolutely correct. It really does not matter how the people vote. The results will be the same. It is very unfortunate for the good people of Venezuela to have to endure this ego maniac.
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By Victor Mena (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #155) on Saturday, December 1, 2007 - 7:34 pm: |
Oh yeah that´s the worst part of all this,standing Chavez and his long and stupid comments,everyday he says or propose something radical.
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By Jeff (BonaireTalker - Post #95) on Sunday, December 2, 2007 - 1:33 am: |
Victor,
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By Boat Chick* (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3798) on Sunday, December 2, 2007 - 2:48 pm: |
I see Chavez won
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By Vince DePietro (Bellevue Condos ) (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1178) on Sunday, December 2, 2007 - 4:32 pm: |
Well that just takes the cake! Sorry to hear it.
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By Jeff (BonaireTalker - Post #96) on Monday, December 3, 2007 - 12:42 am: |
Too late for a 9mm solution, he's a demigod now. With Venezuela's oil money, he can rob its people to support any socialist in South/Central America. Pack the bags and get out before the last boat leaves, its going to get ugly.
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By Susan - www.bsdme.info (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #509) on Monday, December 3, 2007 - 6:17 am: |
Interesting link here to the defeat of Chavez resolution from the New York Times
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By Vince DePietro (Bellevue Condos ) (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1179) on Monday, December 3, 2007 - 6:39 am: |
Glad to hear it.. Now I believe he's still in power until 2013. I suspect he'll have more ploys for a power grab before his time is through.
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By Kobi in Virginia * (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2920) on Monday, December 3, 2007 - 9:12 am: |
Good news....
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By Bob Smits (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #507) on Monday, December 3, 2007 - 9:13 am: |
Our newspapers say he lost :-)
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By seb (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3213) on Monday, December 3, 2007 - 10:21 am: |
Well, whatever you think of Chavez, he held something like a fair election.
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By Boat Chick* (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3806) on Monday, December 3, 2007 - 10:55 am: |
OK, I'm a little cornfused. The BBC news article I read yesterday morning said he won (as Vince just stated) the election, and will serve another six years. I'm assuming that the link Susan posted (after reading it) is that some of the ammendments he wanted to pass did not...anyone???
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By Boat Chick* (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3807) on Monday, December 3, 2007 - 10:56 am: |
Found it, this is the article I read yesterday morning...quite a different tone that Susan's...ah...politics!
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By Boat Chick* (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3808) on Monday, December 3, 2007 - 10:59 am: |
OK, and this is in the line of what Susan posted, at the end, it says he will have to stand down in 2013...
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By Victor Mena (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #156) on Monday, December 3, 2007 - 12:54 pm: |
Hi all!,as you all must know now Venezuela said no to comunism,Im very very happy,yesterday there were lot of people celebrating untill the break of dawn,in the last elections this past december where Chavez won there were nobody celebrating,it only prove who really are the most though it is still hard to believe for me,I think they could not stand the huge pressure under them,anyway this is a victory of democracy and fredom,we will still have to keep on fighting but this surely give us fuel to be alert from now on,thank you all for your prayers and good vibe!
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By Vince DePietro (Bellevue Condos ) (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1181) on Monday, December 3, 2007 - 1:13 pm: |
Victor..From what I read the students in Venezuela were the ones who have have spearheaded the movement against Chavez.
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By Jeff (BonaireTalker - Post #97) on Monday, December 3, 2007 - 8:41 pm: |
Boy was I given wrong information. First, there were international election observers in the country and then on this evening news, Chavez lost by 2%. ABC credited the university students for the unexpected results. Looks like the good guys won this one! Congratulations Venezuela!
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By Victor Mena (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #157) on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 - 12:08 am: |
Thanks a lot Vince!,and yes the students played an important or the key role on all this,I think if they have not asked the people to vote there will be another story,everybody was expecting the student`s decision and it was the right one,God bless our students!
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By Victor Mena (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #158) on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 - 1:05 am: |
Thanks Jeff!.As far as I know there were no international observers,and yes this is the student´s triunph,there´s no doubt about it,we all felt inspired by all those young people who said they believed in Venezuela and that they wanted to stop violence,we felt they deserved all of our support so many decided to vote right in the last minute.
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By Jeff (BonaireTalker - Post #98) on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 - 3:29 am: |
Victor, the AP reported that there were 390 observers in country. The ABC piece had the slant that the students sent Chavez a message that he had to listen to other people's opinion.
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By Brigitte Kley - Coco Palm Garden (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #708) on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 - 5:39 am: |
Yes, there were observers, but do you really count oberservers invited by Chavez like Zimbawe, NKorea, Iran etc. They were also observers from the OAS, but some of them had problems before the vote even started.... The Europeans refused to come as they were like last time not allowed to all voting centers in inside the CNE (the national voting commission)counting center.....
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By Victor Mena (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #161) on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 - 4:06 pm: |
Jeff I must admit that I was lost about the international observers,sorry but I don´t pay too much attention on that.Its glad to know that americans have been watching and hearing whats happening down here,Chavez have not only become a problem for Venezuela but for the entire region.This referendum was by far the end of our problems as Chavez himself said "we couldnt for the moment" so I think now we have to be much more alert,Baduel is proposing a constituyente assembly so if made it means all the congress would be change,current duties would go out,surely it wont be accepted by Chavez and sputies so the problems are just starting I think.
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By Victor Mena (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #162) on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 - 4:07 pm: |
Jeff I must admit that I was lost about the international observers,sorry but I don´t pay too much attention on that.Its glad to know that americans have been watching and hearing whats happening down here,Chavez have not only become a problem for Venezuela but for the entire region.This referendum was by far the end of our problems as Chavez himself said "we couldnt for the moment" so I think now we have to be much more alert,Baduel is proposing a constituyente assembly so if made it means all the congress would be change,current deputies would go out,surely it wont be accepted by Chavez and his deputies so the problems are just starting I think.
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By Victor Mena (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #163) on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 - 4:08 pm: |
Sorry!,dont know why two posts were posted.
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By Victor Mena (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #164) on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 - 4:14 pm: |
Brigitte,I also think somenthing like you say happened,the results difference were too much small,that as you say its really sad,for us its very difficult to trust any of our politicians,we are kinda paranoids about that,we know Chavez wont remain quiet,sooner than later he will attack again,just hope we could come out in victory for that time again.
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By Jeff (BonaireTalker - Post #100) on Friday, December 7, 2007 - 2:28 am: |
Victor,
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