By Marta Evry (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 8:27 am: |
Just getting back from Bonaire........currently sitting the San Juan airport waiting for my connection. Sorry to report that crime on Bonaire is alive and well.
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By Ron Gould (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #552) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 9:25 am: |
Marta,
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By Debbie Babcock (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3692) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 9:37 am: |
Marta, Sorry to hear this happened to you. I am sure you were very upset at this happening, but not locking your door? I wouldn't go to sleep here in the states with my door unlocked with me in the next room, so... again, I am sorry this happened, glad you had a great time, but not to recommend a place due to lack of common sense? I see this is your first post here on BT, did you read any of the posts about crime or things to do to avoid things such as what happened to you before your trip? I am of course, glad you were not harmed and hope you will re-consider coming back to Bonaire again. Please don't take my post here the wrong way, I am no blaming you at all, but common sense in locking doors would have avoided this terrible incident I think. It is very easy when on island and enjoying paradise to let our guard down and forgo our usual precautions in regards to safety. Bonaire is no different than here in the states, except the crime rate is no where near what happens in the states. I know of no where that some type of crime doesen't happen. I hope by your post, that everyone will indeed realize the need and importance of locking your doors and thus can maybe prevent this from happening to someone else.
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By Grasshopper (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #18513) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 10:03 am: |
Marta, My condolences on your loss, and obviously very upsetting experience. Along with locking all the doors and windows in the place we stay, I also put all keys (I won't tell you where I put the apt key) and valuables in the safe while sleeping, including wallets, passports, etc. I do this while traveling anywhere on vacation.
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By Mare (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1403) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 11:05 am: |
Marta, I'm glad that no one was hurt. Stuff can always be replaced--after all it is just stuff.
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By Jerry Gauron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #910) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 11:14 am: |
ATTENTION
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By Freddie {Moderator} (Moderator - Post #187) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 11:17 am: |
Welcome to Bonaire Talk Marta.. Since this is your first post may I suggest that you read our terms of service about posting crime reports.. you can find it HERE please send us a copy of the police report ASAP at moderators@bonairetalk.com
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By Marta Evry (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #2) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 11:31 am: |
As I said, I gave a report to the police by phone, since we were running to catch a plane. I have no hard copy. If you want , email me privately, and I will give you the full name of the officer I spoke with.
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By Tami Lamb (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #157) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 12:01 pm: |
Now- before you bash Marta into the ground- you all have to realize that the Sorobon is a gated compound with a security guard. It is also very quiet and strangers are easily recognized (because they have clothes on!!). We have also been lulled into the security that one feels there- although we do use the safe in the room. (And the last time we packed everything up we hauled it in the bedroom with us rather than just leaving it out as a 'take me!' package). Strangers have to almost swim in from the beach (which is probably why the thief didn't take more.)
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By Marta Evry (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #3) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 12:01 pm: |
Ron replied:
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By Marta Evry (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #4) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 12:13 pm: |
Oops. The end of the second to the last paragraph should have read, ".........I've found break-ins at night are pretty COMMON."
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By Marta Evry (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #5) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 12:16 pm: |
Tami wrote:
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By Marcus L. Barnes (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #647) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 1:43 pm: |
What a drag. I doesn't really bother me when someone says they won't recommend Bonaire. I just got back and its getting a little crowded for my taste anyway. I've been on Bonaire 7 times without incident so my current position is that the crime situation may be a bit overblown on line. If I was a victim, I might see it differently but I don't so I guess all I can say is sorry it happened and I never sleep anywhere on the road with the door unlocked. There's no way I could be comfortable with that no matter where I was traveling. Currently planning my next trip - PBD is really bad this time around.
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By DIANE AND BEA (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #113) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 3:53 pm: |
Marta , sorry to hear about your losses. Glad no one was hurt
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By mtnest (BonaireTalker - Post #100) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 6:12 pm: |
Marta
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By Jim Taylor (BonaireTalker - Post #26) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 6:19 pm: |
Oh my Marta;
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By Vince DePietro (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #362) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 6:19 pm: |
Marta.. So sorry to hear about this..For some reason, issues like this when they rarely occur appear to be (at least in my opinion) more probable the last night of someone's stay. Which leads me to suspect/conclude that someone had inside knowledge that you were leaving the next morning.. I for one don't believe in coincidence.
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By Tami Lamb (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #158) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 6:46 pm: |
I don't think that it takes any inside knowledge (although I wouldn't discount that happening.) What is easier is to realize that most people are going to pack the night before and NOT have all that luggage in the bedroom to fall over- you have to sleep so the suitcase can't stay open on the bed all night waiting for your toiletries- and of course you are going to gather everything together so you don't forget anything in the wee small hours. Anyone who knows the flight schedules and the favorite days can figure out the best days to go 'shopping'. All it would take is some scouting around and looking in a few windows to know. And we do a good job of getting everything together in a handy-dandy takeaway package! And if you know anything about carry-ons you would know to grab the small bags that probably have more valuables in them.
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By Alan T. (BonaireTalker - Post #34) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 7:52 pm: |
Locks don't keep honest people honest.
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By constance (BonaireTalker - Post #63) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 10:06 pm: |
I am very sorry. Sorry this happened to you on your vacation and even more sorry that people blame the victim when they should be blaming the criminal. No matter how careful a person is if someone is out to get you, they will get you. This is their job. They spend all their time planning how to rob you. If we have to spend all our VACATION watching, guarding, worrying...why go? Yes I love Bonaire, yes I plan to go back and back and back but I HATE this and I hate blaming the person who is relaxing, having a good time, a drink or two, lulled into a sense of security, having a great vacation. It makes us all feel better when we can see what someone else might have done something wrong that contributed to their being a victim cause then we think that wouldn't happen to us. We are smarter, more careful. We ALL have a moment that we could be a victim and thieves spend all their time watching for that moment. That is their job.
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By Marta Evry (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #6) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 12:15 am: |
Constance,
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By Vicki Peterson (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #6) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 1:29 am: |
Marta,
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By Ann Phelan - www.bonairecaribbean.com (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2297) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 7:33 am: |
Sorry for your loss. It leaves a bad taste and bad memories.
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By Gail Thomas (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1302) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 7:39 am: |
Is it a "break in" if the door or window is unlocked? An invasion maybe?
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By mtnest (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #102) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 7:53 am: |
In many US cities it is considered, by law, a constructive break-in by entering into a premise with intent to commit a crime therein. Does not have to be a physical breaking in.
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By Marcus L. Barnes (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #649) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:44 am: |
Well put Ann. It goes without saying that this is not Marta's fault - its the criminals fault. It is out of line, however, in my opinion, to label those of us who are simply trying the say that prevention is part of the equation now matter where you travel as "Angry Bonaire Supporters" and "Victim Bashers." It suggests that we have no sympathy for Marta. Nothing could be further from the truth in my judgement. I am a Bonaire Supporter who will always view the island as a "Divers Paradise."
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By Jason Cuplin (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #5) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 10:52 am: |
Marta, SO Sorry about the loss, and the sense of invasion can only be worse.
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By lisa z (BonaireTalker - Post #61) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 10:56 am: |
Locked or unlocked doors, a break in is a break in. No one has the right to come in and steal your things. But that's a perfect world, and Marta, I'm sure hindsight is 20/20 with regards to locking the doors at night. Still, I'm very sorry this had to happen to you. It's really not fair, nor your "fault".
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By Patrick T. (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1206) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 11:24 am: |
Lisa z if you go back and check why they ask for a police report you would understand why the moderators do this. So stay off the moderators back for doing this thankless job that they do. RANT OFF
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By mtnest (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #103) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 11:49 am: |
Granted, the unlocked door probably was a contributing factor to this incident and was appropriately referenced in many replies. I would like to point out that there have been a number of incidences where the doors and windows were locked and crimes of this nature were perpetrated. The fact that predators of this sort troll the resort areas is disturbing. I would offer that not only should we the visitor be more vigilant, but I strongly believe that the particular resort has a large obligation to provide adequate deterrent security. Having a "security guard" may mean many things. The one thing that has irritated me in reading past postings has been the posters referring to the indifferent responses and reactions of some of the resort staff. I am not bashing Bonaire or the tourist industry, but am hopeful that the addressing of these issues is a multifaceted approach to what is seen as a threat to the industry as a whole. I do consider such break-ins while the people are sleeping more than just petty crime. Enough said, no doubt.
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By Freddie {Moderator} (Moderator - Post #188) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 1:17 pm: |
in an effort to make sure that everyone knows the posting policies about crime I am again going to post the following : PLEASE TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY..
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By mtnest (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #106) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 2:04 pm: |
Not sure that I like the term "back up" as used in the crime reports. In its context it can be construed as doubting the poster and hence the appearance of being oversensitive to the reputation of Bonaire. Just my opinion. Moderators do a great job and are afforded little recognition for the hours and effort they volunteer.
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By Marcus L. Barnes (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #650) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 3:56 pm: |
In my opinion it is due diligence by the moderators to require documented evidence of crime event on Bonaire that has been posted on Bonaire Talk. Trolls post stuff on line all the time that could possibly do unfair harm to a person, business etc.
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By lisa z (BonaireTalker - Post #62) on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 6:26 pm: |
Patrick,
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By Diana Bos (BonaireTalker - Post #15) on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:47 pm: |
Marta, I for one am not about to bash your reporting your break-in at Sorobon. Many may not want to hear about these types of crimes on Bonaire but I personally think this is information that should be shared.
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By Rebecca D Wells (BonaireTalker - Post #60) on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 11:16 pm: |
By the way, where could you hide a stolen car on such a small island and when they catch you, don't they prosecute you? And throw you in jail, cut off your fingers and toes or some other punishment fits the crime....where ya gonna run to where ya gonna hide, underwater....? Why can't they deport someone who is convicted of a crime like this? I don't understand why there isn't enough police presence on such a small strip of land to discourage this type activity?
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By Marta Evry (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #7) on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 11:58 pm: |
Diana,
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By Harrie Cox (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #399) on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 9:12 pm: |
Dear Moderators:
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By Freddie {Moderator} (Moderator - Post #196) on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 9:52 pm: |
Yes Harrie we did.. and please the word is thread not threat....
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By Harrie Cox (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #400) on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 6:22 pm: |
Freddie,
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By Freddie (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #7510) on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 6:24 pm: |
fixed it Harrie , that is one good thing about being a moderator! sorry for the misspelling..
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By robert dixon (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 12:19 pm: |
The fact that a dwelling was entered after dark is enough for major prosecution in many states.
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