By Jed Demeule (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 2:45 pm: |
Warning everyone...Total Bonaire Car rental is out to rip you off! We rented a truck that was so full of dings and scratches...the form with damage on it had 18 different areas of damage when I rented the truck (sheesh I guess that should have been my first clue. When we returned the truck they charged me $115 USD on top of the weekly charge and stated that there was a new scratch on top of another scratch....yeah an pink twinkies shoot out of my butt! Due to our flight leaving I could not stay and argue. Every one learn from my mistake DO NOT RENT WITH TOTAL BONAIRE RENTAL....they are out to rip you off!!!!!!!
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2604) on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 4:57 pm: |
Did you use a major credit card to pay the bill? If so, you might be able to contact them and contest the charges. Not nice at all, I'll tell you. I guess we all have to carry our digitals with us when we pick up our rentals...photo the entire car from top to bottom as proof later on. Carole (video footage will do just fine, too!)
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By Lorraine Bayford (BonaireTalker - Post #71) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 12:33 am: |
Jed, thanks for the information. We rented from Total car last October and two days after arrival, we had our licence plates stolen. We contacted Total and they said we have to go to get a police report, so 2 hours at the police and another couple of hours running back & forth to Total's office (because no one was there when they said they were going to be), finally got new plates but Total didn't want to do any of the leg work. I had already considered using someone else anyway, so thanks for the heads up. Yup, gonna take my digital with me!
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By Marc @ CrystalVisions (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1175) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 12:39 pm: |
Whether or not the car has damages or failures is not the issue. From the moment you sign for acceptance of the car, that car is your responsibility. If you were unhappy with it Jed, you should have refused it and asked for another one. If there was a new scratch, then you were responsible for it, whether there were old ones or not. Same goes for stolen plates or other damages. The car is yours for the time of your rental.
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By seb schulherr (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #938) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 1:13 pm: |
Hey, you pay it, tell them you will contest it, save all info like that essential pink slip showing damages, and let the credit card company fight it out. Isn't that why you use them in the first place, so you will have a bully agent?
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By David F Pascoe (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #5) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 2:26 pm: |
I have been coming to Bonaire for 20 years and rented almost exclusively with Budget and have NEVER had this. We are down there about 3 months out of the year now and our guests and family always use them. When one arrives late at nite tired with piles of gear the last thing I need is nit picking w the rental agency. Then leaving in the early AM is not the time to negotiate. Yes I have had a few problems with the vehicles that were always solved with minimal expense but never at departure time. When I experience behaviour like this I vote with my feet and credit card. Contact Dirk at budgetbo@bonairelive.com for the best rates.
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By Cynde (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #8594) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 2:27 pm: |
I rented a car for the first 2 days on island last time. This thing was like yours Jed, full of scratches. I had thought to myself, "if there is a new ding or scratch, how am I going to know?" I like the idea of taking a digital pic. I'm going to do that next time If you don't have digital, take film pictures and you can still use those if you challenge with the credit card company. I think the problem is at some of the Northern dive sites, it is pretty easy to scratch the vehicle on the brush...Gee, Jake never did check his truck when he returned...guess I got out of that one! (Just kidding Jake, we didn't go North just for that reason)
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2608) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 3:05 pm: |
We love AB Car rental. Never had a problem. They have been great to us and have bailed us out of situations out of their control...just because they were nice. We are always very appreciative of their kindness and help. Carole
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By seb schulherr (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #939) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 4:25 pm: |
Well Dave, I been overcharged and double charged before at Budget, so it just goes to show that no operation is perfect. We usually use Netty, but we've switched to trucks because I got tired of the minivans, it is easier to get everything on and off with the truck, plus headroom! Netty now has trucks, but had none our last trip, hence our good experience with AB
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By Andy Keely (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #654) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 5:25 pm: |
Tell me .... is it the AB trucks that have that bl$$dy infuriating alarm system? Yep thought so. Well if it is, I used 'em last time I was on the island. Good & bad to report ......
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2614) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 5:40 pm: |
AB saved our butts once, too, when we could not locate our keys at all...they came right out to the Divi and gave us another set on the spot...no charge, either (they are supposed to charge). We ended up finding the original set in the end, so it all worked out nicely. But, the fact that they came to our rescue so promptly and with a SMILE on her face, no less, was wonderful. We always use AB.
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By seb schulherr (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #943) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 6:49 pm: |
I thought it was Total that had the alarms, along with I know Buddy used to. No bl**dy alarm on our AB Truck.
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By Jed Demeule (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #2) on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 12:11 am: |
Marc, you are right I did sign it and did trust that Total Car Rental was an ethical company (incorrectly)...there was no new damage to the truck or new scratch. I did not as you seem to imply make a sweeping statement about ALL car rental companies...just Total Car Rental...and I hope that my post can help prevent other people from having to learn the hard way like I did. And Yes all I am contesting the charge on my Credit Card
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By Marc @ CrystalVisions (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1176) on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 12:56 pm: |
Jed, I know you weren't impying that all rentals do this... but on the other hand, I've heard the same complaints about the others at some point or other. For all the good comments that AB is getting, there are always one or two people that feel they've been treated unfairly. My point is, its simply not true to state that the rentals (no, not even Total) are "out to get you". When something unforeseen or bad happens, we have to operate on the borderline of giving good service to the customer while making sure we don't do ourselves a bad service in the process. Part of this has to do with plain economics, another part is setting prescedents.
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By seb schulherr (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #950) on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 1:25 pm: |
Possibly an option you should offer Marc, ALL SCRATCH insurance.
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By Josie (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #822) on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 5:54 pm: |
I have to put in a good word for Everts Car Rental (which is pretty small). The owner, Ilka, is a delight and is always there to meet us with a smile. The vehicles are always in excellent condition, and the prices are competitive. We had a small van last year, and loved it. Will get it again next year.
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By Lorraine Bayford (BonaireTalker - Post #72) on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:06 am: |
Yes Mark, no one likes to pay more than they expect! We ALL want good value for our hard earned dollars. Many of us who have come to Bonaire have had to save and save that hard earned money to make this dream happen and when it turns to a nightmare, we get mad! There are unscrupulous businesses and employees in EVERY business and EVERY country in the world. We only hope that our employees are treating our business the way we would but that simply does not happen. Jed should have refused a vehicle with 18 spots of damage and the rental company should not have attempted to rent a vehicle with 18 spots of damage. The rental companies are the FIRST and LAST impression people have of Bonaire. If it means higher rates to keep people happy, then do what you have to do. As a business owner myself, there are people that you can't please no matter what but the happy ones return and recommend.
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By Barry Baker (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #470) on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:19 pm: |
Just a minor point.
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By Dave Flick (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #3) on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 1:22 pm: |
Maybe I am just ignorant?........but wouldn't the $115.00 charge be used to fix the alleged scratch? And if that was the normal mode of operation by the rental car company.......why, when you receive a vehicle, would there be scratches on the vehicle in the first place?
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By Marc @ CrystalVisions (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1178) on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 12:07 pm: |
Dave, because of course the rental companies want to have their cars on the road as much as possible. Every day that the car is standing still is a day that it doesn't bring in money. So they try to plan maintenance in the low season as much as possible, usually around August/September; especially if the damage doesn't hinder normal operation of the car. But the "trouble" is, Bonaire doesn't really know low seasons anymore. It's a problem of luxury, really.
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By Cynde (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #8745) on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 4:20 pm: |
Marc, so what DO they do with the money they charge for damages?
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By Marc @ CrystalVisions (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1179) on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 4:40 pm: |
That's what I meant to tell Cynde: it does get used for repairs, but if the damage is not limiting the car's operation, that maintainance usually is postponed until there is time to do so. It's not good business to put a car in the workshop for a couple of days for a paint job, when that car could have been rented during that time (not only in terms of lost fees, but also in terms of availability and possible disappointment of potential customers). Best to wait for a suitable moment.
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By Cynde (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #8758) on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 1:16 pm: |
Marc, OK. That explains it. I totally understand not taking a vehicle out of operation that is needed for rental (unless it isn't working!) I still like Barry's idea of putting a mark on the old damage, or better yet, take a pic with a digital. 2 years ago the truck we rented from budjet had hardly any scratches. This last time, the one I got was absolutely a mess with dents and scratches. I was a bit worried that I would be charged for damages that I didn't do.
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By Brent Oglesby (BonaireTalker - Post #35) on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 12:46 am: |
I second Seb's (tongue-in-cheek?) suggestion regarding the varying types of insurance! :-)
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By seb schulherr (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #1000) on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 8:57 pm: |
How much are the charges for scratches? Is it the cost of repainting, or some percentage thereof?
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By Ron Robinson (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #3) on Sunday, October 5, 2003 - 6:23 am: |
Have to chuckle at all the comments I've read. I was in Bonaire last summer for the first time (coming in Dec 2003 again). I wanted to rent cheap. I can't recall who I rented from but I ended up with a small Suzuki van that looked like it came from the junk yard. My son detested it, as most 18 year olds would. Had a lark with it. The back door threatened to fall off, the floor board was missing in places, sometimes the doors refused to latch unless you banged them 2-3 times. We actually had a window fall out. I had no fear that someone would break into this junker or about getting scratches on it. I saw a couple people actually refuse to park next to it ;-). I hope to find something like this next trip. Happy driving to all!!
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By Rich Penksa (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #5) on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 8:46 am: |
You guys have me worried! I have a car included in my package from Total Car Rentals. Will I incur any charges when I pick up my car? I hope that everything is included! I don't want to come out of pocket or get scammed by the company when I get there. Any experiences with these package pickups?
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By Josie (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #844) on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 7:52 pm: |
Rich, why don't you email Total, tell them what package you have, from where, and ask them if there are ANY additional costs, taxes, insurance you might feel you need.
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