By monica eccher (BonaireTalker - Post #27) on Wednesday, December 6, 2006 - 4:25 pm: |
Do most resturants/grociery stores take credit cards??
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By Ann Phelan - www.bonairecaribbean.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2535) on Wednesday, December 6, 2006 - 5:06 pm: |
Most places take Visa and Mastercard. Amex is not widely accepted. Warehouse Grocery does not take cards for small purchases.
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By monica eccher (BonaireTalker - Post #28) on Wednesday, December 6, 2006 - 5:50 pm: |
Thank you Ann. Very helpful.
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By Wally and Eva (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #988) on Wednesday, December 6, 2006 - 6:34 pm: |
We use our credit cards practically everywhere.
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By Ron Myers (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #347) on Wednesday, December 6, 2006 - 9:41 pm: |
Too funny! I just asked my wife/banker and she was sure about the 100 part, but not about the currency. To be safe, buy >USD$100. Easily done at warehouse.
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By Dr. Director (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #296) on Wednesday, December 6, 2006 - 10:18 pm: |
While we use our credit card at restaurants on Bonaire to pay for our meals, we always leave our tip in cash. Think this is better for our waiter/waitress.
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By Ruth van Tilburg (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #667) on Thursday, December 7, 2006 - 9:08 am: |
That is exactly right re: tip in cash (if you can). CC's leave a paper trail, and tips on cc's have all wage taxes, etc, deducted from the employee.
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By Cyn (GH) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #353) on Thursday, December 7, 2006 - 10:54 am: |
There are some restaurants that only take cash. Bongo's, Antriol Catering Company, I can't think of any others right now (it's early and I need my coffee).
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By Dr. Director (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #297) on Thursday, December 7, 2006 - 1:10 pm: |
Ruth - Can you provide any insight on Cyn's statement on a percentage to the Bonaire government. If true, will change and pay cash at all Bonaire restaurants.
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By Ruth van Tilburg (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #668) on Thursday, December 7, 2006 - 6:15 pm: |
Every business that takes a credit card, has about 4-5% taken from that amount charged, as a fee from the CC company, yet the total amount of the bill still incurs the sales tax of 5%, which the owner must pay. Say you charge $100. The owner must pay $5 in sales tax (5%), but still has 4-5% deducted from the $100 by the CC/bank. Amex has a reputation for taking a long time to transfer payments to the businesses, and usually takes the highest percentage, hence the reason it's not widely accepted. Visa and MasterCard re-imburse the owner faster, for slightly less. Anyway, it all adds up. Much like the 6% royalty I must pay off the top, to have my company's name. Yes-ouch.
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By Cyn (GH) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #358) on Thursday, December 7, 2006 - 6:55 pm: |
Ruth, no wonder you have migraines! You gave me a headache just reading about it!
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By Wally and Eva (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1005) on Thursday, December 7, 2006 - 8:44 pm: |
I will switch to cash from hence forth. I usually hit the bank on arrival and convert my US$ and Traveler's checks to local so I will just do it twice.
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By Kevin Wayne Williams (The Great Escape) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #240) on Thursday, December 7, 2006 - 8:46 pm: |
The tips can be a real source of arguments with the employees, too. I process the tips pretty simply: tips go in the pool, and, at the end of the month, I divide the pool according to total hours worked (with the exception that neither me or my wife take a share of tips). I take all the taxes out before distribution. Any employee that pockets a tip from a table, bar, or room is fired. Every employee I have ever had has come to me and asked if they can't receive the tips as cash, under the table.
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By Ann Phelan - www.bonairecaribbean.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2538) on Friday, December 8, 2006 - 8:10 am: |
Having waitressed for years and now doing catering in the US for specialty events I can say phooey to that system Kevin. I know it's the norm but if I am a customer and I have a great server and I tip them 25% (which I often do for great service at night) I hate to know it's pooled for the month. As a server and if I earn a stellar whopping tip because I am a kick %$$ server I hate to know I will not see a portion of that well earned tip that night. I like Ruth's plan at Mangos, the tips of the night are split amongst ALL staff. It encourages team work and diligence. It inspires all to work together and at the end all are rewarded.
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By Ann Phelan - www.bonairecaribbean.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2539) on Friday, December 8, 2006 - 8:11 am: |
Having waitressed for years I can say phooey to that system Kevin. I know it's the norm on Bonaire but if I am a customer and I have a great server and I tip them 25% (which I often do for great service at night) I hate to know it's pooled for the month. As a server and if I earn a stellar whopping tip because I am a kick %$$ server I hate to know I will not see a portion of that well earned tip that night. I like Ruth's plan at Mangos, the tips of the night are split amongst ALL staff. It encourages team work and diligence. It inspires all to work together and at the end all are rewarded. And again as a customer I want that team who served me well to earn the tip I gladly offer. It is my way of saying thanks to all that served me that evening.
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By Kevin Wayne Williams (The Great Escape) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #241) on Friday, December 8, 2006 - 8:18 am: |
I'm not sure what the difference is: I split tips among all the staff, just like Ruth did at Mangos. The only difference is that I do the split once a month instead of every night. I don't know how Ruth managed the split, but I do it by hours: if one staff member works 48 hours a week and one works 24, the 48 hour worker gets twice as big a share.
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By Ann Phelan - www.bonairecaribbean.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2540) on Friday, December 8, 2006 - 8:25 am: |
Kevin, I understand your method. It is the norm in Bonaire. Don't you see it from my perspective? If I get a killer tip one night, it's not shared that night amongst all staff. We earned a great night of tips because we ROCK. Instead, it goes into a monthly pool. I have earned sometimes 50.00 and 100.00 tips on occassions over the years. Ruth's way my team that night ALL earn share in that generous reward for GOOD service. Your way, I don't see it..it's sent into the montly pool and I get a portion of that month's tips. Its all about incentive. Last night I did a private party. We worked 4 hours on site and 2 hours for the actual party. I earned 16.50 USD an hour for the catering/banquet work and our team rocked..I mean were incredible. Our reward was 50.00 US tip. Imagine if I took that tip (550.00 for my team) and pooled it with the other month's tips?? It doesn't feel good. Our team was so happy last night. We made the party a success, we enjoyed our guests and we all walked home with a 50.00 crisp USD.
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By Diane Gutman (BonaireTalker - Post #44) on Friday, December 8, 2006 - 10:52 am: |
I can say for sure that the Warehouse will only let you use your credit card for purchases over $100 in US.
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By Kevin Wayne Williams (The Great Escape) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #242) on Friday, December 8, 2006 - 12:40 pm: |
I see you point, Ann. I just wish that I could be sure that my staff would pay the taxes and keep their boss out of jail.
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By Sue from NJ (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #461) on Friday, December 8, 2006 - 4:31 pm: |
Having worked my way through college as a waitress, I don't think I would want work at a place with pooled tips unless everybody helped each other out all the time. (the restaurant I worked at was very competitive - people argued who got the nice tables by the windows). When I leave a big tip (always in cash), I'm assuming my server gets it, as I'm complementing them on their service.
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By Jan Klos - ( Hamlet Bonaire #10) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #445) on Friday, December 8, 2006 - 6:00 pm: |
Where is the incentive for the wait staff to give great service if they all know that they will get a fair share of the pool? Why should one person who goes above and beyond get the same as one who sits on their ___!
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By Kevin Wayne Williams (The Great Escape) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #243) on Friday, December 8, 2006 - 6:12 pm: |
Where is the incentive for the busboy to get your table squeaky clean and the kitchen assistant to cut your vegetables perfectly and the maid to keep the floor polished and the front desk clerk to be friendly if the waiter pockets the entire tip?
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By Ruth van Tilburg (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #669) on Friday, December 8, 2006 - 8:42 pm: |
A lot of valid points here--overall, what Kevin does at his place is how the tax office wants it done. There was an old 'saying' about what goes on between the table and the pocket was overlooked, but restaurants/cash oriented businesses have been under the spotlight of audits lately (it's already 4 yrs since we had Mango's, where I let the staff handle their own tips; if I were doing it today, I'd have to go with Kevin's method). Not fun. And it's always the employer's burden of proof, where you're guilty until you can prove you're innocent.
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By Gail Thomas (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1667) on Saturday, December 9, 2006 - 9:50 am: |
Wow, this has certainly been an education for me. I've never been close to the food service industry on the working side. We've always rewarded great service and good attitude/personality (ie our waiter/waitress) with a great tip, and just assumed he or she got that amount and knew we really appreciated their effort.
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By Jan Klos - ( Hamlet Bonaire #10) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #447) on Saturday, December 9, 2006 - 1:28 pm: |
Kevin, Point taken. Forgot about the back of the house...
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By Wally and Eva (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1010) on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 3:33 pm: |
When I was a bartender in college the house practice was waitress' cut 15% of their tips and barkeeps cut 25% out of our jars for the bus and back staff.
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By Tom Brokamp (BonaireTalker - Post #36) on Saturday, January 6, 2007 - 10:34 am: |
Time to weigh in. I own a restaurant is a small town in Virginia.
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By Kevin Wayne Williams (The Great Escape) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #286) on Saturday, January 6, 2007 - 11:30 am: |
One big difference between here and the states is that we don't credit the server's tips against the salaries. Back workers and servers don't earn wildly different amounts, certainly not four or five to one.
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By Tom Brokamp (BonaireTalker - Post #42) on Sunday, January 7, 2007 - 10:53 am: |
Reading between the lines in the previous post I can discern that in Bonaire the FOH does earn at a different rate then BOH however there is no indication of the differential. I am left to guess.
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By Kevin Wayne Williams (The Great Escape) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #290) on Sunday, January 7, 2007 - 11:23 am: |
The spread is sometimes reversed from the US. The server needs to have better language skills than a kitchen assistant, so the server is frequently paid higher than kitchen staff. When I had dinner service, my servers earned about 1 guilder an hour more than the back.
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By Irmgard (BonaireTalker - Post #14) on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 11:31 am: |
one small, remote and very tourism orientated country in Europe has totally and officially given up taxing tips - for the simple reason that cash tips are impossible to trace in tax audits (and those receiving CC tips would be at a ... disadvantage). Aside from that it is common knowledge within the tourism industry in that country that staff generate a large part of their income from tips which is taken into consideration by the employers (a vicious circle of course)... my personal opinion is that whoever works as hard as those in tourism related jobs deserves that little tax benefit...
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By Tom Blue Ridge (BonaireTalker - Post #80) on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 12:31 pm: |
Irmgard, thanks for not identifying the country since many good service workers might emigrate.
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By Irmgard (BonaireTalker - Post #15) on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 12:41 pm: |
...forgot to mention that I ALWAYS leave cash tips when I use a CC - for all the reasons stated in this thread, but mostly because I want to reward the person who has just served my barracuda dinner with a smile and noticed in time that my drink was evaporating quickly...
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By Kevin Wayne Williams (The Great Escape) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #317) on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 1:00 pm: |
Taxes are as bad as tips: no one in the government cares that I received the payment as a credit card, so they still collect $5.00 per $100.00, even though I only collect $95.50. Basically, every slice out of the bill gets paid in full except the business's share.
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By Kevin Wayne Williams (The Great Escape) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #318) on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 1:01 pm: |
Oh, Irmgard ... I hope you aren't encouraging servers to pocket tips on Bonaire. That could wind up with the restaurant owner being fined and jailed, which I am sure isn't something you really intend to have happen.
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By michael gaynor (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2428) on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 1:24 pm: |
Depending on the $ volume merchants on Bonaire can negotiate a lower bank fee...all you need to do is send a letter requesting a reduction...
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By Irmgard (BonaireTalker - Post #16) on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 1:46 pm: |
Kevin, NOOOOO! I have never had a meal or experience or whatever that made me wish for the proprietor to end up behind bars :-) certainly not on Bonaire!!!!
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