By David Schott (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 8:52 pm: |
Hi all! My buddy and I are heading to Bonaire feb 28th, and we are seasoned East coast (NJ) wreck divers. I'm interested in getting to the windjammer. Is it illegal to dive, or do you need a guide, and where is it? Any directions or GPS coords. would be great! Thanks!
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By JeffW (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #16) on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 1:59 am: |
Search this site for 'windjammer' you'll get several useful hits. I think that the general location of the jammer dive site is contained in one of the old posts. The windjammer is not illegal to dive. It is an unmarked site and the depth is well beyond recreational limits. Walt at Captain Don's can guide you on a dive there I believe. Walt runs Rec Tek Scuba.
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By JeffW (BonaireTalker - Post #17) on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 2:17 am: |
I did a bit of searching for you and didn't see a post that had directions to the site in it. You might also want to search for posts with 'deep dive'.
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By Peter Cabus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #137) on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 10:02 am: |
(-: Oh no Jeff!!! Not that thread again.
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By Peter Cabus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #138) on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 10:03 am: |
David,
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By David Schott (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #2) on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 11:45 am: |
Thanks guys - I think I might see if I can get a guide, hopefully that will work, I also found an older post from 2001 about directions using the fence, etc. As far as the technical part, no problem Peter, I've been to bonaire before and 200' in that nice warm, clear water is about the equiv. of a 50 foot dive in Jersey (although we usually do dives in Jersey in the 100-180' range - with 10 foot vis and 40 degree F water.... So balmy! But Thanks anyway - It's nice to see divers that are caring of other divers! Keep up the good work!
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By Peter Cabus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #139) on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 12:03 pm: |
David,
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By bob neer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #712) on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 2:29 am: |
ouch...this looks expensive
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By Peter Cabus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #140) on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 5:34 am: |
Bob,
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By bob neer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #714) on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 9:16 am: |
thanks peter,
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By David Reilly (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 11:14 am: |
David S:
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By JIM KENNEDY (BonaireTalker - Post #59) on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 7:34 pm: |
The Windjammer at 180 ft should be done with trimix only. Extended range diving with air/nitrox deco is only good for 165ft. I doubt if you find any diveshop operator that would willingly take you down that deep on air. The risks are too great at that depth on air and who would want to dive that deep and be narced to see the Windjammer. Isn't diving the Windjammer the chance to search the wreck with a clear head. My guess is that WaltIII wouldn't refuse to take you down after becoming trimix certified. :>) I, myself, won't even think about diving that wreck on air...
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By JIM KENNEDY (BonaireTalker - Post #60) on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 8:00 pm: |
To become a Technical Extended Range Diver you need to be certified as:
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By David Schott (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #3) on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 8:09 pm: |
Missed a few of the pre- reqs there Jim. Check out the TDI page at http://www.tdisdi.com/tdi/sandp/doc/Diver%20Standards/DSExtended.pdf
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By JIM KENNEDY (BonaireTalker - Post #61) on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 10:05 pm: |
David, can't get the web page to open, sure you have the correct address? No doubt I missed some items but then again I certified thru Padi and although the material is probably the same tech stuff it may be addressed differently. Anyway, wanted other divers to see what it takes to become technical certified. Alot of time and money goes into training even if its just for one dive to the Windjammer...
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By David Schott (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #4) on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 10:10 pm: |
Try http://www.tdisdi.com/tdi/tdihome.html
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By bob neer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #722) on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 1:17 am: |
ouch...we are back to expensive
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By Peter Cabus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #141) on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 1:30 am: |
This thread is like a bad deja-vue.
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By Peter Cabus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #142) on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 4:14 am: |
correction. make that a PPO of 1.47.
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By bob neer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #723) on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 6:12 am: |
peter,
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By JIM KENNEDY (BonaireTalker - Post #62) on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 6:42 pm: |
Why don't you guys be honest with yourselves? You don't want to dive the Windjammer to explore the wreck with only eight minutes bottom time, you want the bragging rights to say you did a 180ft bounce dive in Bonaire to see a wreck...Isn't that what this is all about? Sounds like it to me...
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By David Schott (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #5) on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:22 pm: |
8 minutes??? Who said 8 Minutes??? I was planning on more of a 20-25 min. bottom time. For example...
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By Peter Cabus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #143) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 6:28 am: |
Jim, to me it sounds like you assume a bit too much. You don't know anything about me, but you use words like "bragging".
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By bob neer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #731) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 6:49 am: |
i can get 20 pictures in 8 minutes...
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By Peter Cabus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #144) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 7:32 am: |
Bob,
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By David Schott (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #6) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 2:36 pm: |
Seriously Bob, I would definatley get the training and practice before attempting a 180'+ dive - It is inherently dangerous, and you need to have the right equipment to do it safely. I would definatley take classes in deco and ext range and attain a comfort level by gradually increasing depths before this dive.
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By Peter Cabus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #145) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 3:23 pm: |
Bob,
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By bob neer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #734) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 3:44 pm: |
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By David Schott (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #7) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 3:58 pm: |
I know doubles are available at capt. don's, and I wouldn't even think of doing the dive without redundancy. Doubles, as far as I'm concerned, along with a high % deco gas, an upline, are just some of the basics that you really must dive with for dives at that depth.... A good gas switching deco computer that you're comfortable with is also a must, due to the nitrogen and O2 loading throughout a week trip in bonaire. Just a few things to think about - which you will learn more about in an ext. range and deco procedures course.
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By bob neer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #736) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 4:23 pm: |
hi dave,
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By Peter Cabus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #146) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 5:23 pm: |
Dave,
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By JIM KENNEDY (BonaireTalker - Post #63) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 6:44 pm: |
Peter in Post #141 said 12 minutes from reef to Windjammer and back with a dive operator that would put you about 8 minutes bottom time.
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By Peter Cabus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #147) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 7:20 pm: |
Jim,
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By bob neer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #753) on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 4:55 pm: |
ok...so i'm gonna take the nitrox class...they'd like to see me complete the rescue course as well but can waive that if i checkout ok...
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By David Schott (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #8) on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 5:05 pm: |
That's great Bob....Talking about Hookers...ahhh...forget it! lol
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By JIM KENNEDY (BonaireTalker - Post #66) on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 6:40 pm: |
I used to do deep air dives @ 210+ too until my last dive that went bad...My vision narrowed to tunnel vision and the deep blue ocean turned bright reddish orange with a pinpoint of blue in the center. And while returning to deco my ears started to WAH -WAH - WAH really loud... That my friends is a major warning not to dive deep on air. The whole dive was a bounce dive which took about 55 minutes to complete with about 5 minutes bottom time. No software was involved and the middle aged boat captain didn't even have a watch let alone a dive computer. He was a native to the island and had done this type of dive a number of times before. The third person was a female dive instructor who just wanted to dive deep again. I was the only one wearing a computer... Scared the hell out of me but at the time of the dive, even with this all going on and I realized that this was going on, I had the strongest urge to venture deeper than 210'... Thought if I wanted to continue to dive deep to get certified through some credible agency or the next time I could finish the dive floating belly up. Addicted to depths, YES I am, but not crazy enough to dive without the proper equipment and training anymore. All my dives over 165' will be trimix only. I go by the book now. No fudging. Just my thoughts, to each their own... Trimix will give more bottom time with less deco time within safer PO2 limits. At my age, which is 54, it is a big factor in safe diving and for me there is no question as to what is safe and what is safer...But I will also say at this time I am not Trimix certified but will be in 2003.
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By stephen porter (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 3:14 pm: |
We were at Capt. Don's in Jan. they were offering guided dives to the Windjammer for US$207 but you had to be trimix certified.
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By Benji Schaub (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 9:21 pm: |
Jim, you sound DIR to me, you sure you are PADI/TDI certified... :-)? Nice job!!
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By Peter Cabus (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #168) on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 10:44 am: |
Hi Benji,
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By JIM KENNEDY (BonaireTalker - Post #78) on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 4:31 pm: |
Hello Benji~
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1398) on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 5:42 pm: |
Jim,
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By JIM KENNEDY (BonaireTalker - Post #80) on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 11:54 pm: |
Glen~
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By Walt III (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #179) on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 7:36 am: |
Surface Supplied Gas and Warm Water Suits would be the only way to have any time at 500+.
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1406) on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 8:53 am: |
Jim,
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