By Cecil Berry (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #4149) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 8:56 am: |
As reported by Doc V on scubadiving.com. Cause was cardiac arrest.
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By Kelly Baum (GDLW) (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2953) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 9:42 am: |
My thoughts and condolences to the family and friends as well. Thank you for letting us know, Cecil.
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2122) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 11:51 am: |
Cecil,
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2123) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 12:19 pm: |
Amigoe has this short note at the bottom of today's online page http://www.amigoe.com/english/ :
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By Steve Watford (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #16) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 12:25 pm: |
I was present when the attempts to revive him were made. I am still at Sanddollar for a few more days. (I have 2 kids with the flu here) There were at least 3 doctors who worked on him. One a cardioligist, one Dr. van Vooten from Bonaire and another one who said she was a doctor. Also the amubulance personnel were present. It evidently happened in the water at Bari reef. His buddy brought him in. It was after dark so the dive shop was all closed up.
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By Kelly Baum (GDLW) (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2954) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 12:26 pm: |
While I certainly understand what was meant by it -- it is perhaps a sad choice of words to say that the public prosecutor is "not concerned with this matter".
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By Theo (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #167) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 4:08 pm: |
Kelly,
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By Kelly Baum (GDLW) (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2958) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 4:14 pm: |
I understand that Theo, I work for a Prosecutor's Office. That's why I said I understand what they meant. I just felt it was inappropriate wording. Regardless, my heart goes out to his wife. This is just gut-wrenching. No words.
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By Tish (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #348) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 4:32 pm: |
Kelly, just a footnote on the wording. Having lived on Bonaire for three years and spent a lot of my life outside the United States, I recognize that wording as simply the way a non-native speaker of English is phrasing a thought in English. It is foreign rather than inappropriate. The person who said that had no idea that the wording might convey, to Americans, disrespect or lack of compassion. The speaker did not appreciate that the word "concern" has more than one meaning in English.
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2125) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 4:43 pm: |
Well said, Tish. I was trying to say it but, thankfully, trashed my attempt.
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By Carole B. (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #5161) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 5:45 pm: |
Our heartfelt sympathies and thoughts go out to the gentleman's family and friends. How horrifying and experience. Carole
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #14078) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 6:49 pm: |
This is just tragic....my condolences for the wife and family. Having a loved one die on your vacation is so hard and tragic. I hope that his wife can find peace at some point...
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By karen gaffner (BonaireTalker - Post #39) on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 8:55 pm: |
so sad.
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By Brian (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1135) on Saturday, August 6, 2005 - 4:42 am: |
Very sad to hear about this man's passing away; condolences to his partner, family and friends.
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By Denise Kacavas (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1067) on Saturday, August 6, 2005 - 12:36 pm: |
our heartful condolences to the family, and all those who knew and loved this man. Such a sad loss.
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By Alynda (BonaireTalker - Post #41) on Monday, August 8, 2005 - 1:06 pm: |
Deepest Sympathies and Prayers for the Smith family!
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By Kelly Baum (GDLW) (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2962) on Monday, August 8, 2005 - 1:42 pm: |
Tish, did it really take you THREE years to find us on BT?? Wow!!! I guess I was of the understanding you'd been there maybe only a year or so.. But we're glad you're here now.
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By Tish (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #350) on Monday, August 8, 2005 - 1:55 pm: |
Thanks, Kelly!
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By DARLENE ELLIS (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1596) on Monday, August 8, 2005 - 2:07 pm: |
My heatfelt sympathy to the family.
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By martha rhoades (BonaireTalker - Post #14) on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 2:38 pm: |
We got to the Sand Dollar August 6, and never heard a squeak about this all week. I am glad we didn't as I am 54, and my husband is 61. Our 14 y.o. son had just gotten certified last month in Wyoming. We did 6 shore dives and 6 boat dives. We did two night dives; one at Don's Habitat and one at Sand Dollar - Bari reef. We were all fine.
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By Steve Watford (BonaireTalker - Post #20) on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 10:52 pm: |
Martha, I was present during the attempts to revive him. We were at Sand Dollar until last Tuesday.
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By J Rushman (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #109) on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 3:52 am: |
Stents, whether put in recently or not, indicate coronary artery disease. It's upsetting for all if someone doesn't survive CPR, but even in the best or circumstances, the odds are poor for survival. My informal statistics are 20% for in-hospital survival (quality of survival not assessed), 5% for out-patient. Survival after cardiac arrest is depedant on many factors, including time to BLS, time to ALS and time to definitive care. Even with all odds in the patient's favor, survival after MI is poor.
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By J Rushman (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #110) on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 4:21 am: |
A "healthy" 36 year old male in our running club died of an MI while on a 20 mile training run. He had run several marathons and was considered to be in excellent shape. He didn't share with his running companions his poor family history. It seems that men, in particular, are poor at sharing their medical/family history, minimizing their risk . This fellow seemed to be, based on athletic accomplishments and physique, to be in excellent condition. He may have been in excellent condition, but family history holds a "trump" card.
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By Tish (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #373) on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 8:15 am: |
You really crack me up, J, talking about being older at 48!
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By Alynda (BonaireTalker - Post #44) on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 1:07 pm: |
Tish,
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By Tish (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #376) on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 1:31 pm: |
Well, hey there, Alynda!
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By Gerry Rhoades (BonaireTalker - Post #25) on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 9:46 am: |
I will shortly turn 61 and really take issue with 48 being too old for shore diving. We just spent a week on Bonaire and at half of our dives were shore dives. With the exception of getting out of the water at Angel City, because we came out slightly off target, we didn't find the shore dives any more strenuous than the boat dives.
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By Alynda (BonaireTalker - Post #48) on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 9:54 am: |
Funny, I thought life began at 40!! WOO HOO!!!
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By Tom Cousino (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2236) on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 9:56 am: |
Gerry, I agree. Live each day to its' fullest!
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By Tish (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #382) on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 10:07 am: |
Awesome notion, Tom, but I'm not headed for that rocker for a LONG time!!
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By Tom Cousino (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #2237) on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 10:33 am: |
Good to hear Tish!!:-{)}
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By Ron Gould (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #266) on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 1:32 pm: |
Tish, Diane and I met you at Gibis May of this year and we had a good conversation about diving and other things. My average is 49 dives a year and have been diving 41 years. You should pass that 2000 mark sooner then you think.. Just do the math. For those of you who have not met this nice lady she is a ball to talk with and I'm sure would make a good dive buddy.
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By Kelly Baum (GDLW) (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3030) on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 3:14 pm: |
Tish, you are a diving machine! Do you do, like, 4 dives a day or what? lol! I'm only 38 and you make me look positively sedentary!
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By Tish (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #383) on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 4:12 pm: |
Hey, no, Kelly. Just 4 to 6 dives per week. When you live on Bonaire, they add up.
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By Kelly Baum (GDLW) (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3036) on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 4:53 pm: |
200+ dives per year is ALOT Tish! 600 dives in three years, that just makes me TIRED thinking about it! Of course my local diving is quarry diving... not interested in 4 dives per week here! lol!
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By Tish (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #387) on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 7:53 am: |
Living on Bonaire makes all the difference.
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By JIM KENNEDY (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #198) on Sunday, October 2, 2005 - 11:22 pm: |
Having had a heart attack while on vacation in Utila I suggest that most people have a doctor's checkup if diving and if they are past the age of 45. Especially "Americans"... There are warnings signs that most people put off as common everyday pains but...
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