By Kathy Hall (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #458) on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 6:00 pm: |
Do you go to Bonaire EVERY time you get a chance for a dive vacation? Did you go to lots of other places first, and just decide "There's no other place like Bonaire on this earth" when trying to book a vacation after Bonaire?
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By andrew hamilton (BonaireTalker - Post #20) on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 6:15 pm: |
Well its a difficult question - if your talking world diving then no, all roads do not lead back to Bonaire - the GBR beats Bonaire hands down IMO, as does Thailand and a fair few other places in the Pacific. However if your talking the Caribbean is isolation.....well I've dived Bonaire, Cozamel, Tobago and the Rosario islands (Colombia), and Bonaire is the only one I am about to visit again a second time - not so much because its the best in terms of absolute diving, but just because IMO the overall experience is the best (the dive freedom concept). I'll let you know if I'm disappointed (we fly tomorrow for 2 weeks). cheers andy
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By bob (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1256) on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 6:15 pm: |
1. cost per dive - can't beat bonaire
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By Wally and Eva (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #498) on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 8:03 pm: |
Hi guys,
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By Kathy Hall (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #471) on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 9:32 pm: |
Andrew, Great Barrier Reef, maybe one of these days when we're crazy(er) I'll want to swim in the vicinity of white sharks. We do get crazier and crazier the more we see, the more we experience. Maybe not crazy really, but craving the next adventure, I do remember when I said I'd never want to dive with sharks, but we do, often these days (feeling crazier by the moment, just not whites........yet!
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By andrew hamilton (BonaireTalker - Post #21) on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - 2:57 am: |
Hi Kathy - you would do well to see great whites off the GBR - whites are not generally considered a tropical shark and so there range doesnt really cover the GBR (maybe the southern end). Your much more likely to see the various reef sharks (which we did), and a variety of other species (bulls, tigers). But great whites - not really - you need to go down to Sydney and the south coast of Aus. If you do get that way I highly recommend Heron island - its expensive, but the best diving we have ever done - sharks, mantas, turtles, nudibranchs, sea snakes, the whole caboodle....
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By andrew hamilton (BonaireTalker - Post #22) on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - 3:00 am: |
Wally - that comment about the hammerhead - when was that seen? Last November when my wife and I were off the reef at Atlantis in 20 meteres or so we saw a large sigle shark which I was 90% sure was a hammerhead. The guys at Wannadive told me I was nuts though as they are almost never seen. You have any more details?
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By Ron LaCourse (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #2) on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - 3:28 am: |
I have been to Bonaire 6 times since 1995, been diving since 1988, during that time we have dove in the Bahamas, Aruba, Caymans, Turks and Caicos, Cozumal, Akumal, Cancun, Bermuda, Hondurous, Belize, St Thomas and St John, St Kitts, St Lucia, GBR and Fiji. All these islands have something to offer but for an all around experience Bonaire has always stood out as exceptional.
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By Brian (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #644) on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - 3:58 am: |
Kathy
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By Wally and Eva (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #502) on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - 7:21 am: |
Menno had the boat over on Klein on the south side. Saw an 8ft Hammerhead. Very rare sighting for BON
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By andrew hamilton (BonaireTalker - Post #23) on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - 7:58 am: |
Thanks Wally - so they are there - and I wasnt hallucinating
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By DARLENE ELLIS (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1159) on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - 10:37 am: |
I can't speak for the diving as I only snorkel but I new Bonaire was my second home on my first trip!
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By Princess Diva Kelly (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1673) on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - 10:54 am: |
Hi Kathy, I guess my answer is because of the diving freedom. The best example I can give is when I went to Cozumel, the weather sucked, and we had to cancel all but 4 boat dives. (2 trips, 2 dives each). We were there a week, and all the other dives, including night dives, were cancelled due to the waves being too high and they wouldn't let the boats go out. This was in November, 2002. I just like being able to dive when I want, where I want, and not having a time schedule. I also prefer not to dive on boats with people I don't know, just because you never know their skill level, and I once had someone completely cut me off on a ladder, after my fins were off and I was starting to climb up, he got in front of me, almost knocked me out with his tank and I was left floating around.. lol.. nice visual, huh?
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By David Johnson (BonaireTalker - Post #41) on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - 9:50 pm: |
Kathy:
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By Bob Birk (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #8) on Thursday, September 2, 2004 - 8:59 am: |
Well, this looks like a good spot for my story. I did a bit of diving in the Navy, Japan and the PI, in the late'60s and pretty much gave it up when I returned to the states. MN has green fish, cold water, and water clarity was not too great. Not a lot of fun. We started our Caribbean trips in Negril during the first Gulf war. Not very many tourists, nice beach and water, food was good, but a rather hostile feeling from the locals. My brother in law got some bad air and the local dive equipment was pretty shoddy. Never went back. From there to Cozumel (5 trips) and we loved the place. The diving was great and very diverse. Stopped going when they started putting up stoplights, a second gas station, and cruise ships disgorging passengers like a coral spawning. I'd like to go back sometime, but my contacts tell me the reef can get to be like Grand Central Station. Another paradise gone. We did St John before the mass of tourists moved in and found it nice and the diving was fair, but no desire to go back. St Maarten was different but the diving was not very good. Dominican Republic, not used to all inclusives and the diving was no more than fair. Isla Mujeres, Cancun, Akumel all had something to offer, but still moderate diving and lots of people. We went to Rincon, PR and dove Desecheo, good food but again only fair diving. We did a week at Buddy Dive in '99 and we had a very enjoyable trip (only marred by a few relatives from hell)dove all around the island and saw a lot of different things. From there we went to Ambergris Caye and decided that would be our latest hangout for awhile. No shore diving, fairly good diving and snorkeling close in to the reef, but you need to do a 2 hour boat trip through open water to get to the real good stuff. I should point out here that we are sport divers, not diving fanatics. Diving is just one of the things we do on vacations, as we prefer an island location. Above water things are just as important to us as the diving. Good food, good people, drinkable beer and no crowds of casual tourists. Okay, we have been sticking in odd vacations between our Belize trips, last year went to Culebra PR for the beaches. Beautiful beaches, not many people, also not much in good PR food and no local beer worth anything, snorkeling was good if you knew where to go, but the diving was again, mediocre. Our '04 trip was back to Belize and tho we enjoyed it immensely (great food, great people, good beer, no hordes), after a pounding 2 hour trip out to the atolls for some really good diving, my brother-in-law and I decided our next trip was going to be to somewhere we could get some decent diving without having to pay such a price. Somewhere with good food, good beer, good people, no crowds of "those cruise ship folks" to fight. I pulled out our pictures of the Bonaire trip and we decided to make it Bonaire in Feb of '05. We are hyped and ready to go. The great pull here is the shore diving (don't have to put up with those strange people you are forced to dive with on the boats that seem to try and limit your survivability), things done on our own schedule and the diversity of the island. I don't know if we will "fall in love with Bonaire", but chances are good that if we have a good experience we will return again.
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By William Heidrich (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Thursday, September 2, 2004 - 5:05 pm: |
I can't say enough good things about Bonaire dive sites, the island and people. We've been there twice.
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By Israel A. Sanchez (BonaireTalker - Post #60) on Thursday, September 2, 2004 - 7:44 pm: |
OOFFF! That's a tough question, and nice to see a topic with a different question. It is difficult to compare locations since ALL of them have their own uniqueness. My wife and I enjoyed Bonaire VERY much, and their awesome people. The diving is good but I thought that the visibility wasn't as great as people mentioned. Maybe 60 Ft at best (we were there in January). The feeling of freedom is what makes it so unique. No need to catch boats. We just returned from Roatan and we also had an amazing time. The visibility exceeded 100 ft in all my dives, but there's no such thing as shore diving. The swim-through and the corals are beautiful, but Bonaire takes the prize when it comes to life. Roatan also felt a lot safer than Bonaire, and the locals were very proud of their police (and military) who seemed to take good care of locals and visitors. The locals of Bonaire on the other hand, only shrugged, sighed, and frowned whenever asked about their police. I would not consider Aruba if you are serious about diving (you seem to be). Aruba is more catered for the gluttonous, drunken masses who happen to dive while on vacation. I would stick more to places known for their diving rather than their resort. The kind of places that when mentioned, make people ask you "Where in the world is that?" Would we return to Bonaire? We'd love to. Are we going to? Not until their government does take serious action (not those comical, staged "raids") to help with the crime problem that seems to be getting worse. There have not been any reports lately, but does not mean much since it's only been about two months since the last one. Let's wait a couple more months to make sure it's not a fluke and we'll see. Stay healthy and happy diving, wherever you go. Coach Izzy
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By Leslie McIntyre and James Astley (BonaireTalker - Post #20) on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 4:31 pm: |
Bonaire - it depends on your viewpoint. Divers look at Bonaire as great sites, interesting fish including innumerable seahorses - but particularly the fact that you can dive on your own schedule. But from my perspective as a non-diver, an important part of any holiday there is the island itself - the charm of the people and the donkeys roaming wild, the donkey sanctuary with Marina who is working so hard to help them, the animal shelter, the fact that (so far) there isn't a traffic light, good restaurants with a European and local flavour, the unspoiled landscape. Each year we think of other islands as diving/holiday potentials, but the combination of factors that Bonaire has, brings us back here. Of course, the more you return to one particular place, the better you get to know it, and the more you enjoy it - it's like being away and returning home.
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By Kathy Hall (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #509) on Sunday, September 5, 2004 - 11:04 pm: |
As I've been glued to the weather channel this weekend watching Frances, with Ivan following...Bonaire being out of the hurricane belt is enough for another plus.
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By Bob Klemow (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #2) on Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 12:34 pm: |
I've swum with a whale shark in Utila. I've filmed a hammerhead at Cay Sal. I've been amazed by Maori Wrasses and Potato Cod on the GBR and the Coral Sea, but I've been to Bonaire 6 times, and I intend to keep coming. I can dive three times a day for two or three weeks without ever taking a seasick pill. I still want to see Fiji and the Red Sea, but these will probably be a one time trip. I can dive exactly when I want to without worrying about schedules in Bonaire. The only thing that could end my love affair with this dive paradise would be if Habitat's new charge system became an epidemic on Bonaire. Sometimes I don't want to walk down 1000 steps or hunt for a sure step off of the angel city complex, expecially at night. It can be nice to use a ladder to return to shore. For a year now, Habitat, the inventor of Dive Freedom, has been charging divers to use their dock, (if you're not diving with them.) The money isn't the real problem. It's inexpensive. You drive around Bonaire in a skin with all your gear. Heading into a dive shop carrying money and signing up is a pain in the _________. If Sand Dollar, Buddy's and the Flamingo take up this practice, along with selling more of the seashore to private owners with no access, Bonaire will eventually become like any other Dive Island. Dive freedom and ecodiving are the things that made Bonaire a paradise. Let's not let this end.
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By Linnea Wijkhof-Wimberly (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #770) on Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 4:41 pm: |
I'm on Bonaire now for the umpteenth time and was here for Ivan. I slept outside on an open porch facing Klein since they turned off the power at 6pm. I slept fine and with only a few wind gusts strong enough to make the hammock sway. Fair amount of rain, but the puddles have almost all dried up.
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By Susanf (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #906) on Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 6:10 pm: |
Bob, you're right - it's not about the money. The reason for Habitat charging is that they were experiencing problems where the paying guests were having problems with outsiders using the facilities. I'd heard that there were instances where a paying guest who'd set their gear up in a locker (it's assumed by guests that if you see a lock on a locker, it's taken - whether or not it's locked) came back from a dive to find their locker had been taken over - and not by a guest, but by someone from outside. Other times, people who were from outside monopolized the benches on baby doc, where it's nice to be able to sit down and check yourself over before jumping in. I believe they also feel that outsiders should not feel they have any right to the rinse tanks, (fresh water on Bonaire may be good but it ain't cheap) and there were similar abuses there.
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By Mary Wills (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #294) on Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 8:04 pm: |
Hmmmm,
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By Nadine Rubin (BonaireTalker - Post #75) on Monday, September 13, 2004 - 11:00 pm: |
Kathy, when we first came to Bonaire 8 years ago a good friend told me "either you fall in love with Bonaire or it is just another dive destination". All the above reasons for diving is true, but there is a calmness about the Bonaire people. They will remember you even if you don't come back for a year. It's spooky. It's one big community and believe me, everyone knows everything about everybody. You fall in love with the lifestyle - it's basic, simple, slow. Whether you are above or below the surface there is a tranquility about Bonaire. But, this is not for everyone. If you are drawn back, maybe this is why.
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By Debbie Babcock (BonaireTalker - Post #26) on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 8:10 pm: |
I go to Bonaire over and over again because it's addictive, the water, diving, the people, the lack of night-life and the relaxed feeling I get every night when the sun sets after a great day of diving or snorkeling. Good friends, a Bright, a good book, peace and quiet, that makes me come back year after year and now more than once a year! Can't get enough! The more I go, the more it stays in my head! Diving is different every time I go, I see all forms of sea life small and large. I can go at my own pace, savor each moment with my husband, no hurry, hate boat dives, love shore dives, my kids even love it! I can't say enough about how addictive this island is. Debbie
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By andrew hamilton (BonaireTalker - Post #24) on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 6:21 pm: |
well I'm just back from my second trip (with a tad of Ivan thrown in). I've dived the GBR 3 times, the Caribbean half a dozen, the Red Sea, Thailand etc etc but Bonaire was again just a peach, despite the hurricane coming close. We saw a ton of new fish, enjoyed the laid back night life and plan your own diving - the only fly in the ointment is the always rubbishy service that KLM provide - this time they lost our bags but there you go. Will provide a report in due course.
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