By Carole Duffey (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #2) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 12:08 pm: |
I've been lurking on this board for a couple of months now, ever since we booked our trip. We'll be in Bonaire May 2-9, staying at the Plaza. Nearly all of my questions have been answered, simply by reading the posts on almost every subject imaginable. I do have a couple of questions that remain: 1) Can I expect the water temperature to be at least high 70's - low 80'?? I'm usually fine at that temp diving in just a skin and I'd really like to leave the wetsuit at home. 2) Can someone fill me in on the Marine Park permit? Will the dive shop at the Plaza take care of that? We are getting to Bonaire mid-afternoon and would like to squeeze in a short shore dive before dinner. Will not having a permit be a problem? Thanks to everyone for such great discussions -- it's really enhanced our anticipation of the trip.
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By Martin de Weger (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3249) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 12:35 pm: |
Hi Carole,
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By Susanf (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #759) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 9:36 am: |
One thing: most often the Marine Park Orientation is given in the morning, so you may have to content yourself with an evening snorkel that first night.
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By Cecil Berry (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3339) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 10:17 am: |
Carole what I would tell you to do is after checking in, take your dive gear, grab a tank (they are near the pool on the beach) and dive 18 Palms. But I just thought of something, a weight belt. You might be able to sweet talk them into giving you a weight belt if you can catch Toucan divers open. They normally close at 5:00. The belts are keep around by the rinse tanks with the other rental equipment. If you get there when the afternoon boat comes back, one of the DM's maybe can help you. I'd be surprised if they would not lend you a belt(s). Then catch the following morning's briefing to get your tag.
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By Susanf (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #760) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 10:41 am: |
Cecil,
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By Randy P (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #202) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 10:41 am: |
Hi Carole,
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By Susanf (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #761) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 10:52 am: |
Well, I guess this explains why you can still see people abusing the reef in Bonaire.
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By Randy P (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #203) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 12:11 pm: |
Hi Susan
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By Marcus L. Barnes (BonaireTalker - Post #92) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 12:48 pm: |
I always thought it was against Bonaire Marine Park rules to dive without a tag which is what Carole would be doing should she dive prior to the orientation and receipt of a Marine Park Tag. Am I wrong? Not interested in opinions here - just the facts. Hopefully, someone in authority will answer this for the benefit of all persons going to Bonaire for the lst time.
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By Susanf (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #762) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 1:02 pm: |
Randy,
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By Carole Duffey (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #3) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 1:34 pm: |
Wow! Sorry, I didn't mean to start an incident over our desire to get into the water on the afternoon of our arrival. I'll certainly follow the rules, and skip the the "selfish" afternoon dive if it's not legal. Both my husband and I are experienced divers and certainly know how to treat the reef -- whether it's in a Marine Park or not. One of the reasons we like to get in a brief, shallow dive as soon as we arrive is to work the kinks out of weight and equipment issues before our first "real" dive, especially if it's a boat dive where others might be inconvenienced by whatever adjustments might need to be made. Thanks for all the input.
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By Marcus L. Barnes (BonaireTalker - Post #93) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 1:51 pm: |
Carole: I've stayed at the Plaza and dove with Toucan for the last 2 years. Both times we showed up at Toucan around 8:30 the morning after our arrival for the required briefing and orientation dive. The briefing consists of a film on the Bonaire Marine Park and a verbal run through of the Marine Park rules by a dive master. This is followed by the issue of weights and any equipment you might need. You then proceed to the Plaza Resort beach for an orientation shore dive. Usually they have golf carts to take you and your equipment to the beach. The stated purpose of this is to get your equipment and buoyancy dialed in before being allowed to venture off on your own into the Marine Park. Dive Masters from Toucan are there and observe you gearing up but do not go into the water with you unless you ask them to go with you. I think the intent is to impress upon you how seriously Bonaire takes reef conservation - which I think we all agree is good. That's it by the numbers. I am fairly certain that diving prior to undergoing this procedure is prohibited by Marine Park rules. Have a great dive!
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By Linda Richter - NetTech (Moderator - Post #1759) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 1:59 pm: |
No diving without getting the dive tag first.
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By seb schulherr (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1510) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 2:16 pm: |
I believe you can get a new one in December for the new year, if you are there and have a current tag, without a reorientation. I assume that's what the natives do.
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By JoAn Ferguson (BonaireTalker - Post #12) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 2:49 pm: |
What about snorkeling? Do you need the BMP tag for snorkeling?
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By Susanf (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #763) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 3:00 pm: |
Carole,
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By Linda Richter - NetTech (Moderator - Post #1760) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 3:24 pm: |
We locals don't have to get an orientation every year. I buy my tag from the Marine Park itself although you can get them from any dive shop.
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By Lorraine Meadows (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #833) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 3:26 pm: |
Besides the fact that we need a tag to dive, I collect them. The money is well spent.You can tell the passion about our reefs in the discussion.
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By Susanf (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #764) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 3:44 pm: |
I actually figured locals were exempt from doing an orientation every year.
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By Randy P (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #204) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 3:52 pm: |
Re: Tags. Both trips to Bonaire I bought the tag the afternoon of my arrival and signed all the requisite forms waiving any rights I might think I had. Plus got my "ID" number from the dive ops etc. This was all BEFORE any orientation. No films were shown the following day, just a tour of the facilities, an explanation of the park rules, details of the dive op and boats, and then off to the gear counter to gather up some weights for an unsupervised dive at my discretion. No DMs in attendance.
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By Brian (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #583) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 4:23 pm: |
Carole
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By gregg brewer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #513) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 10:39 pm: |
Carole,
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By Carole Duffey (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #4) on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 8:05 am: |
Thanks everyone for your input. We'll check in with the dive shop and if they say we can dive, we'll dive, if not -- I guess we'll have to settle for the torture of drinking tropical drinks and watching the sunset.
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1716) on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 12:01 pm: |
Isn't the Marine Park rules briefing a once-in-a-lifetime thing? I know that I have not been asked to do a briefing at the times I have purchased add-on tags myself, always at one shop where I am known.
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By Randy P (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #205) on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 12:23 pm: |
Per the InfoBonaire website:
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By Vince DePietro (BonaireTalker - Post #32) on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 5:17 pm: |
Well, having stayed at the Plaza many times, my advice after a long trip is just to relax when you arrive..There'll be plenty of time for diving. If you arrive at say 2:00 PM, unpack, go for a leisurely swim, have a funny drink, watch the sunset & go out & have a great dinner...
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