|By alan markus on Friday, November 9, 2001 - 4:10 pm:|
Just returned from a trip to Bonaire, and flew, Cleveland to Miami to Aruba and then Bonaire. The Flight down went without a single problem. The flight back was a different situation.
|By Kelly on Friday, November 9, 2001 - 5:34 pm:|
Alan, you have my attention.
|By Tylor Hall on Friday, November 9, 2001 - 8:05 pm:|
Don't go through Aruba to get to Bonaire. I just came back and it takes forever to get through Aruba customs to get off the island.
|By Kelly on Friday, November 9, 2001 - 9:05 pm:|
This would good advise if, and it's a big if, I do not already have tickets and if I were not leaving in a matter of days.
|By Carole Baker on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 1:05 am:|
There is NO WAY I will ever check my camera equipment into my check-in luggage! They are my bloodline. Too risky for damage and/or theft in checked baggage. I would have to find an alternate route to Bonaire if Aruba were one of the connections. I certainly hope all of the airlines are not adopting this policy. If I have to arrive at the airport even earlier for them to examine and inpsect my photo equipment, then so it will be....interesting to hear about this new policy, however. Thanks for letting us know. Carole
|By Jan Klos on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 10:37 am:|
Has anyone asked the question why Aruba officials are asking to put cameras etc in the checked in luggage-- could it be as simple that they do not want the passengers to have batteries on them? And what is AA saying-- are they going to be responsible for replacement of thousand of dollars of equiptment----I don't think so!!!!!
|By alan markus on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 10:55 am:|
The 1 1/2 hrs is just not enough time, unless they re:open the intransit terminal which is not likely.
|By Kelly on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 10:57 am:|
Jan, A/A has no responsiblity for Aruba Customs policy. I see it as very simple, do as they want or suffer long delays. I will pack my camera and cell phone in my luggage, stand in line and hope I can make my connnecting flight.
|By Ann Phelan on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 10:59 am:|
I hope there was AC in there..I am sweating listening to this..
|By Jake Richter - NetTech on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 12:24 pm:|
Annie - nope. Won't be any closer to the Cape than Logan airport this evening and again in just under three weeks. We'll see you on Bonaire, however, right? :-)
|By Ann Phelan on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 1:30 pm:|
Yup, you will see me..I arrive God Willing, Dec. 22 and will be at Lac Bay that very afternoon..LOL..I leave Dec. 30th so hopefully we can do drinks some night..Will be at Lighthouse and have a cell so folks can call me..I will give you the # later..
|By Jan Klos on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 3:06 pm:|
FYI-- Just found this
|By Kelly on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 3:07 pm:|
Thanks Jan.. now that is good information..
|By Tylor Hall on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 5:03 pm:|
I just flew from Bon to SJU on AA's ATR 72. It took two hours and was a good flight. I will not go through Aruba again! That list is only from Aruba and not the FAA or AA. US Customs in SJU is easy to check through. I was stopped and searched and xrayed, but it went quickly. Lot less time than in MIA. Fewer people.
|By alan markus on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 7:49 pm:|
|By Kelly on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 8:07 pm:|
Alan, thanks for the response. From your comments I had a feeling you had to recheck luggage in Aruba.. Damn I was hoping flying A/A would avoid that. Like you I am booked on the Bon to Aru 2PM flight, I will have to send my dive buddy ahead of me to get a place in line and then run the bags (all 200 lbs worth) between terminals. Cannot afford the time to spend the nite in Aruba, even if A/A is paying. Tanks again.
|By Glen Reem on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 8:41 pm:|
Does AA pay for an overnight stay in Aruba if their flights are on time and the missed connection is due to time taken by the airport procedures??? Maybe if AA accepts the reservation with the specified time between flights and knowing the procedures. Interesting.
|By Peter Cabus on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 4:40 am:|
The list of items not to take in hand lugage also includes portables. THAT IS CRAZY!! I will never put a portable in checked lugage. The chances of a portable surviving the trip are slim to none. Just look at the state of your suitcase after a flight. They are scratched all over. I hope those rules are only temporarily.
|By alan markus on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 11:07 am:|
Batteries in or out of the camera means nothing. The camera (laptops,cellphones,etc) will be taken at the security check and given back when you board the flight. (I agree that checking cameras in the luggage is risky).
|By Jake Richter - NetTech on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 2:54 pm:|
|By alan markus on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 8:14 pm:|
|By lonnie hoover on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 3:05 pm:|
BIG NEWS>>on BON-ARU and ARU-BON. According to Carmen at Maduro travel, on Bonaire, American has pulled their equipment and cancelled all daily flights to and from Aruba and Bonaire on Mon.,Tu.,Wed., Sat. for DECEMBER AND JANUARY. They still offer service on Thursday, Friday and Sunday. Another complication!
|By Carole Baker on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 7:14 pm:|
I might imagine AA has pulled part of their fleet (Airbus 300's, etc) for inspections, thus fewer craft to fly around the world. If that were to be the case, they most likely would keep their craft available for their most lucrative markets. This is PURELY speculation on my part, however....I have absolutely NO direct contact or information coming my way. What a shame. Carole
|By Carole Baker on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 9:30 pm:|
I just heard a piece on the news that AA has canceled an order for "new" craft...in an effort to save money. Carole
|By Lynn Turner on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 9:31 pm:|
Actually these flights were cancelled more than a week ago as we were notified by our travel agent that we needed to change our tickets for next week. This was BEFORE the Monday airline crash. If you are planning to travel in the near future I would make sure that you build in some flexibilty in your schedule.
|By Brigitte Kley on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 7:23 am:|
I had guests arriving yesterday with KLM on Aruba and than using AE for the flight to Bonaire (couldn't get a seat on the direct flight to Bonaire the next day). The KLM was late arriving - these travelers too had to pick up there luggage (1 bag missing)- check in again (with the paper work for the missing bag), go to the security control - and because of all that, they would have missed the AE flight - but AE was waiting. So quite a number of US tourists arrived on Bonaire 1.40 minutes late..... sorry ...but the Europeans were happy
|By Dean Palm on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 10:16 pm:|
We just returned from Bonaire via Aruba on Sat. At Bonaire the AA counter could not tag luggage because their printer wasn't working. They said we had to claim luggage and go to the ticket counter and recheck there for leg to miami then to Cleveland. Didn't sound too bad because we had 1 and half hour, only to find a long line at the counter.When finally getting to the counter the agent said we would miss our flight as it had been closed out a half an hour ago. He ticketed us anyway and said good luck. Had to claim luggage again and go through US Customs and Immg. Not prepared for that at all. When going through x-ray ,they noticed my camera and told me I had to go back and have another agent check it. I tried to get a receipt but to no avail. They told me they would give it back to me on the plane, and I explained that I was probably going to miss the flight anyway so where would my camera be? Went back to x-ray and they noticed batteries in my carryon. I removed them and told them to keep them. Agent with my camera was coming through at that time and said she would take my batteries for me. After a mad rush to gate, gateworkers asked if we were Mr &Mrs Palm? They were holding the plane for us. Arrived in Miami early and not having to go through Customs there was great. All in all a little unnerving but it worked. Just a little too rushed for my liking. Upon arrival in Cleveland my wife was talking to a fellow who never got his video camera back and when he questioned AA, they said it was not their responsibilty. I just wish there were Standard procedures at all airports. I traveled Cleveland-Miami-SanJuan-Bonaire and back to Aruba with the cameras in my bag with no problem. At least this Board makes the travelers aware of some of the pitfuls. I was wondering if luggage was tagged on Bonaire to final destination and you didn't have to go to the counter on Aruba to recheck it, then the time allocation would work.
|By Faith M. Senie on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 11:44 pm:|
Bonaire's AA counter sure does seem to have lots of printer problems -- the day we flew out, they couldn't print boarding passes. For the AE flight to San Juan, they hand-printed passes, and they told us we'd have to pick up passes for our connecting flight when we got to SJU.
|By Glen Reem on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 4:10 pm:|
I still have this vast wonderment about why batteries must be taken out of cameras, etc., if the batteries are returned to the passenger before boarding, and so can be put back in the same equipment??? Is Hato concerned about terrorism in their terminal?? How about batteries in checked baggage? Someone please unconfuse my simple mind!!
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