By Tod Lube (BonaireTalker - Post #14) on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 10:15 pm: |
It has been years since I have flown commercial, what is the procedure to get film through the security check points (x-ray machine) without getting it destroyed????
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By Brent Oglesby (BonaireTalker - Post #27) on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 10:37 pm: |
To the best of my knowledge Tod (and I'm not really an expert on this), film speed 400 or slower can be X-rayed without damaging/exposing the film; however, film speed 800 or faster cannot be X-rayed without damage, so it must be hand checked instead. Perhaps this varies from airport to airport.
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By Greta Badstebner (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #266) on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 1:08 am: |
Do not pack film in your checked baggage. The x-ray machines used to scan checked baggage are stronger than the x-ray machines used to scan carry-on luggage.
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By Cecil Berry (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2833) on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 9:17 am: |
Tod there have been some long discussions on this subject and the best advice I've heard is the following. DO NOT CHECK FILM, EXPOSED OR UNEXPOSED. This will kill the film. Place all your film in a clear plastic bag and have this hand inspected. If you want to be really sneaky put one roll of high speed film in the bag so they have to hand inspect it.
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By Deborah Campbell (BonaireTalker - Post #91) on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:09 pm: |
Cecil's right... even low speed film is subject to damage if it's screened multiple times. For those of us who haven't gone digital (yet!), the Transportation Security Administration's web site provides information and guidelines for traveling with film:
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By Belinda Z (BonaireTalker - Post #35) on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:42 pm: |
I like Cecil's suggestion of having one or two rolls of high speed film in your supply! I'm definitely going to do that next time because I too have had a few problems with screeners not wanting to hand check my film.
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By deb sperling (BonaireTalker - Post #23) on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:44 pm: |
Just returned from our first Bonaire trip and this was the first time airport personnel REFUSED my polite begging to perform visual inspection of my films. This occurred in the airports at Toronto, Miami and San Juan. I shot 12 rolls of 400 this trip, and the quality of my photos is disappointing. i am sure that the multiple x-rays affected my exposures. I am really angry about this. Thanks for listening.
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By Niki Harris (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #864) on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 2:09 pm: |
deb, I would be angry too. that's outrageous. what difference could it make to them???
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By Deborah Campbell (BonaireTalker - Post #92) on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 7:06 pm: |
Niki, the TSA screeners who've given me a hard time about hand checking my film were, unfortunately, NOT oriented toward good service, not pleasant in general, and appeared to be trying to exert the absolute minimum amount of effort to do their jobs. It would be nice if the TSA would remind their screeners that current policy is to hand check film upon request, so those of us who ask aren't treated so rudely. I won't hold my breath for a change in attitude, though! --Deborah
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By Brent Oglesby (BonaireTalker - Post #29) on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 8:12 pm: |
Some very good points have been made. In particular, the difference between exposure levels employed on checked luggage vs. carry-on luggage. My original reply was assuming the film would be carried on your person; hence, only be subject to the carry-on X-ray machine and not the checked luggage X-ray machine.
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #4453) on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 9:10 pm: |
You could also develop your film on Bonaire. Not cheap, but we do have several companies which develop film and make prints (if you use print film). A lot tougher to destroy developed film with X-Rays :-)
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By C. Kritagent (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #103) on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 6:46 am: |
There ya go Folks !!! AND you get to support the economy of Bonaire...
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By Jan Klos (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #192) on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 7:00 pm: |
I purchased a lead bag which holds 24 rolls and keep it in my camera case.. It sets off an immediate security check--as the screeners can't figure out what they are looking at-- so they automaticaly do a hand search.. of everything--- but at least the film stays safe.
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By Tod Lube (BonaireTalker - Post #15) on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 1:31 pm: |
Thanks again for the help ;-)
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By Ingrid Plemmons (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 2:01 pm: |
I had a bad experience in Miami. After I asked to have my film hand inspected I was told that it does not damage the lower speed films - I had 200 and 400. I produced my Federal Aviation printout Sec. 108.7 where it states: If requested by passengers, their photographic equipment and film packages shall be inspected without exposure to an X-ray system. I have this highlighted. The inspector in charge informed me that he is the Federal Aviation and he chooses not to inspect the film. Our flight was delayed by 6 hours (DCA).
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By Marc @ CrystalVisions (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1167) on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 4:40 pm: |
Best solution of all: Go digital
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By Tony Selby (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 7:55 pm: |
I use 100 ISO film and have never had a problem with X-Ray damage with the film in my carryon. However, I like the idea of the lead pouch to force hand inspection. I may try it. As far as getting rid of my Nikonos V and going digital, it's just a matter of resources.
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By seb schulherr (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #855) on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 9:45 pm: |
Take names, badge numbers, date, time, everything. Complain somewhere it might help. Please, go ahead and complain here too!
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By Greta Badstebner (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #279) on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 6:27 pm: |
The lead-lined bag tends to create some curiosity from the TSA people. During our return trip from Bon in July, we had a long layover in San Juan. We decided to leave the airport and tour Old SJ for a few hours. Upon our return to the airport, we had to go through security. My husband had a few rolls of slide film (50 or 100 speed) in the lead bag and asked the TSA lady to hand inspect the film rather than put it through the x-ray machine. I think the lady was too impressed with the bag to even inspect the film. She took longer than usual because she was really admiring the bag and asking where to buy one. We had our shoes back on and carry-ons off the belt ready to head to the gate and she was still looking at the bag! Kind of scary when you think about it! She was not really doing her job as a TSA rep, but our film didn't have to go through the machine!
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