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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By DARLENE ELLIS on Wednesday, August 15, 2001 - 3:41 pm:     Edit PostPrint Post

FYI--Skin Diver magazine has a really nice site called Dive into Bonaire. Just click on the icon and there is lots of good information there. Their web address is www.skin-diver.com.

Another little FYI-- They have re-named the Jew Fish to now be called a Goliath Grouper.

 

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Glen Reem on Wednesday, August 15, 2001 - 7:49 pm:     Edit PostPrint Post

Saw something about the renaming a while back. Nothing like 'political correctness' extended into biology. Will the 'blackfish' be next?? Then the 'black durgon'? And what of the 'whitefish'??

BTW, four fish books and two dictionaries (I know, I know--overkill but I was curious) I just looked in all use the term 'jewfish' instead of 'jew fish'. The Oxford Universal Dictionary (1955) accompanies most definitions with small quotations to illustrate the word. Our name changers may not have read this one: "The jewfish...I judge so called by the English, because it hath Scales and Fins, therefor a clean fish according to Levitical Law". Attributed to Damphier, 1697. Sounds like a well-chosen name and hardly derogatory. Oh, well--times change.

 

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael gaynor on Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 12:28 pm:     Edit PostPrint Post

ma nish ta naw, hililouse hazeh...or why is this fish (night) different than all other nights (fish sorry I dont remember the Hebrew word for fish!)_. Now, that the name has changed, I can at least get a decent nights sleep!

 

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kerri Freeman on Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 5:21 pm:     Edit PostPrint Post

Couldn't have been suggested by us. They named the fish after Goliath....not one of our boys. We'da called it Sampson Fish, or Macabbean Grouper. Maybe even an 'OY' Fish. Cause when folks see them, they go 'OY'!!!! Your phonetics clean up good, Mikey...maybe hililah hahzeh...don't remember a 'louse' in da house. :) :) Sweet dreams...now we just need to get those Curaçao-ans...Curaçaoites? to build their Goliath Grouper a good-sized condo. With pledges, of course.:)

 

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Glen Reem on Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 5:53 pm:     Edit PostPrint Post

Would a really large jewfish rate an a whole 'oy vay'? Or is that a fictional expression?

 

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Carole Baker on Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 7:55 pm:     Edit PostPrint Post

Now I've seen/heard it all.....amazing. Carole

 

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kerri Freeman on Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 9:35 pm:     Edit PostPrint Post

Glen:not fictional, but rather depends on what one has in mind to do with said fish. 'Oy Vay' indicates pain, that's the 'Vay' part. But the whole phrase could be said sarcastically or ironically. As in "you know what you can do with that fish of yours!" An Oy Vay of the proper tone could convey significant meaning. Whereas, if you dropped him on your toe, Oy Vay would just mean 'ouchie'. 'Oy' has become just an expression of surprise, as well as a short form 'ouch'. Gawd,Glen, I hope I've done better on this than 'dishonourable' if that was the word. The Scottish School Teacher says to find the exact phrase..I might be right.Carole It goes under the heading of " How can you say the whole world isn't Jewish, when the sun's real name is Sol?:)

 

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael gaynor on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 8:20 am:     Edit PostPrint Post

I CANT STOP LAUGHING. it reminds of the Aleph, Base, Gimmel, Daleph joke. It is too long and you need to see it (requires hands) so Kerri, remind me when you are next on Bonaire!

 

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kerri Freeman on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 7:21 pm:     Edit PostPrint Post

Yer on, Mikey. Keep a light in the window. I may have to swimmit.:) Don't see any sign that Can 3000 is gonna flyit.

 

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ellenblack on Friday, September 7, 2001 - 1:26 am:     Edit PostPrint Post

I'd like to hear/see your Aleph....joke too, Michael. Also, FYI, fish in Hebrew is dallet, gimmel....pronounced "dog". Who are these people who take on the authority to change fishes names?!? If "fish" is dog and dog spelled backwards is you know who, it would seem to me this is a Holy matter and should not be meddled with by mere mortals.

 

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Glen Reem on Friday, September 7, 2001 - 9:58 am:     Edit PostPrint Post

Of course, the naming at all is a mortal thing, so why not change (for changes sake. I don't hold with the politcally correct changes)? And 'dog spelled backward' works mostly in the english language, doesn't it, not in an original language where the religion holds that the name cannot be spoken??

 

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael gaynor on Friday, September 7, 2001 - 3:12 pm:     Edit PostPrint Post

and that is why we spell it G-D. Oh what fools we mortals be, eh Glen.

 


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