By cruisintigger (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #3) on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 3:26 pm: |
Have heard stories of higher than usual theft in Bonaire - cars being broken into, etc. Is this true? I know every place has some crime, but is Bonaire's higher than usual? thanks for any info.
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By C. Kritagent (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #243) on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 4:53 pm: |
Bonaire's crime rate is lower than almost any other inhabited island in the Caribbean. Vehicles are broken into when people park them at remote locations, leave items of preceived value in sight then go diving for 1/2 hour or so.
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #10246) on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 5:01 pm: |
Cruisintigger...C.K. is right on. If you want to read specific threads on the topic, do a keyword search on "crime" and you will find that 99.999% of the crime is just what C.K. refers to. Folks go to a remote dive site, leave valuables in the car (this includes nice sunglasses, flip flops, clothing, all the way up to cash and passports). Those folks MAY return to their vehicle and have windows broken and their goods gone.
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By Cindylou (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #263) on Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 10:38 pm: |
Cruisintigger. Here is the text from a letter that we sent to various officials on the island after our 2003 trip. Note that the group has dozens of trips to Bonaire over the last 10 years.
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By Bob Liguori (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #215) on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 11:53 am: |
Hi Cindylou,
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By Cindylou (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #264) on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 12:09 pm: |
With all due respect Bob, being frequent visitors to Bonaire we, for the most part, use Naf and have still experienced the problem. In fact, we use the bank at the airport to convert our US$ for the convenience and proximity to where we normally stay. In the instances to which I refer, the restaurants actually acknowledged they didn't have enough change in either currency to handle our group but were a very long time coming out to tell us. Some of us switched to cards to help get ourselves on our way.
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By Marc @ CrystalVisions (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1255) on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 12:10 pm: |
Carnaval is over, so we should see a drop in crime again now... The next "wave" is expected from mid till end of April.
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #10604) on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 1:33 pm: |
Cindy, I can relate to item number 2. Both Kelly and I noticed the increase in the motorcycles cruising the waterfront where the restaurants, and you're right....it was VERY annoying and difficult to enjoy your meal. The same group just kept cruising back and forth, and it did indeed ruin our meals (from a relaxation point of view). In 2001, there were none, last July, it was out of control....
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By Bob Liguori (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #216) on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 2:35 pm: |
Cindy,
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By Brian (bcj.) (BonaireTalker - Post #26) on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 2:49 pm: |
Marc: What's happening in April? Regatta?
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By Marc @ CrystalVisions (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1257) on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 2:51 pm: |
Dia di Rincon (and Koninginnedag) on April 30
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3216) on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 4:38 pm: |
Marc, does the "activity" also pick up for Dive Festival week? I hope not.....Carole
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By seb schulherr (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1434) on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 7:11 pm: |
Of course a better job could be done providing separate checks. I think there ought to be a mandatory 25% service charge to do it though, it's a restaurant, not a bank. Every waitperson hates separate check people. And any civilized diner is aware that a table of six or more should tip a bit more for the trouble involved in serving them all equally well. Maybe your group should bring a piece of paper to figure out your individual totals and a reasonable amount of change with you if you want to speed up the process? We long ago realized that if wanted to "get along" after dinner we should bring change so we could leave our money in the box and scoot out to get ready for that night dive.
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By Cindylou (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #265) on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 11:30 pm: |
My primary purpose for posting the text of the letter we sent to various Bonairean authorities was specifically point # 1 given the subject of this thread is 'Theft in Bonaire'. The remaining three points were thoughts that came from our group that we thought were valuable general feedback.
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By Cindylou (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #266) on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 11:35 pm: |
I should also add that, relative to point #1, car theft and break & enter are not considered petty crime in most jurisdictions. This is serious stuff and often things escalate from there. For what it's worth ...
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By Marc @ CrystalVisions (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1259) on Monday, March 1, 2004 - 9:09 am: |
Hi Carole,
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By Belinda Z (BonaireTalker - Post #69) on Monday, March 1, 2004 - 2:23 pm: |
We just returned yesterday from our first visit to Bonaire. Thanks to this forum we knew not to take anything we can't live without to the dive sites with us so we didn't have anything stolen out of our vehicle.
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By Marc @ CrystalVisions (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1264) on Monday, March 1, 2004 - 3:03 pm: |
You did good in reporting it Belinda, because Bruce is absolutely right. Statistics are very important to get things to change. And you're right, it's not just tourists; there have been a number of burglaries in local homes too in the last few weeks.
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By Cindylou (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #267) on Monday, March 1, 2004 - 3:55 pm: |
A little something we found interesting that I will share ...
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By Marc @ CrystalVisions (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1265) on Monday, March 1, 2004 - 4:48 pm: |
Cindy, there is a big difference between the dutch and french situation in this. St.Martin (the french side) is a part of France and falls under the control of the French government.
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By Cindylou (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #269) on Monday, March 1, 2004 - 6:23 pm: |
Hi Marc
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1692) on Monday, March 1, 2004 - 9:51 pm: |
In addition to Marc's comments, a main problem is that the police are not a Bonaire-controlled department, as our town or provincial/state police are in Toronto, in Ontario or in the US. Their administration is from Curacao, including the inadequate number on island and their level of industry. That is one reason why the on-island BT'ers also express vast frustration with the situation. They live with it every day.
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By Marc @ CrystalVisions (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1267) on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 - 10:27 am: |
As always, it's also a money issue. It's very easy to say "yeah, but if crime hurts tourism it will win more money than it costs". That doesn't take away the fact that you still need money to spend in the first place, money this government and council just don't have.
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