By Jack Dempsey (BonaireTalker - Post #12) on Wednesday, September 1, 2010 - 11:22 am: |
Does anyone know a place where I can get a refund if I need to cancel my reservations for business reasons? I visit Bonaire frequently and sometimes my clients have to cancel because of something serious that has happened in their life. On Bonaire, many places don't give refunds--it's a pretty sweet deal (for them!) if they can keep hundreds of dollars from someone who doesn't require the room and not have to provide any service (maybe even make double the money if they can rent it out to someone else). I've talked to business men in USA who say they are kicking the hell out of their competitors because they offer their customers a refund and their competition does not. I would agree because, in these days, when disgruntled (would-be) customers have recourse to popular forums on websites like tripadvisor etc., it would seem unwise business practice not to offer refunds to customers who need to cancel for legitimate reasons.
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3212) on Wednesday, September 1, 2010 - 11:50 am: |
Hi Jack.. I am a strong advocate for cancellation policies to be clearly outlined on an advertising website so as to avoid any mis-understandings.
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By Gail T.*********** (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #4845) on Wednesday, September 1, 2010 - 4:57 pm: |
We've always thought a couple hundred in trip insurance beats an amount of 4 grand in losses.
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By Jerry (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #28384) on Wednesday, September 1, 2010 - 5:38 pm: |
Very good advice Vince and Gail. Spend a few, might save big.
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By Susan Davis, InfoBonaire, Bon. Insider (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #446) on Thursday, September 2, 2010 - 7:49 am: |
I had a wonderful experience with Travel Guard (and that's saying a lot--who has "wonderful experiences" with an insurance company?) when I was in Italy with my father and he fell sick. Ann Phelan of this board is an agent for Travel Guard, so you can contact her. ann@bonairecaribbean.com.
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By Neptune Nick (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #134) on Thursday, September 2, 2010 - 9:41 am: |
We have used, and continue to use, Travel Guard.
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By Jack Dempsey (BonaireTalker - Post #13) on Thursday, September 2, 2010 - 11:05 am: |
I know that everyone would say just buy trip insurance, though in Canada and the US, in my experience, most hotels give you a refund if you call by 6:00 pm the day of arrival--they do this to be competitive (to avoid disgruntled ex-customers trashing them on the Internet). I already have trip cancellation insurance through my Travel VISA credit card, but it only covers a death or a medical emergency IN MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY. What I need is to get a refund when their is a death or medical emergency IN MY CLIENT'S FAMILY and they cancel my trip. This type of insurance is sometimes called CANCEL FOR ANY REASON and any I've looked at, the cost is over $400 PER PERSON which is about 30% of the cost of my trip--paying over 30% insurance premium doesn't make sense.
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By Carl (*) (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1881) on Thursday, September 2, 2010 - 11:06 am: |
THx guys - good info!
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By Eric M. "CamMan" (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1334) on Thursday, September 2, 2010 - 11:07 am: |
We got our travel insurance for about $180 for a family of 4 through USAA. But I think you have to be military to use them.
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By From_boston (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #6) on Thursday, September 2, 2010 - 11:11 am: |
If a client cancels last minute, and leaves you with nonrefundable travel expenses, can you recoup from the client? Or have the client pick up the cost of travel insurance for you? You could offer it as an option when you take them on?
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3214) on Thursday, September 2, 2010 - 1:44 pm: |
[(to avoid disgruntled ex-customers trashing them on the Internet).]
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By Jack Dempsey (BonaireTalker - Post #15) on Thursday, September 2, 2010 - 5:35 pm: |
Vince, you obviously have a different perspective being an owner. I am a customer and will simply go with the business offering the best deal--nothing personal. As a customer, I am not going to say, "No, I don't mind spending an extra $200 on trip cancellation insurance because you won't give refunds and I don't mind you getting to pocket all the cash should an unfortunate incident require the cancellation of your trip." That is what you the owner would say. But if I, the customer, have another choice, I'm going to choose the most economical and customer-friendly business.
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By Jack Dempsey (BonaireTalker - Post #16) on Thursday, September 2, 2010 - 6:16 pm: |
Thanks Boston for creative thinking, but my enterprise is service-based and going after a client would destroy my reputation, my client-base and my business.
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By Fid Chinoy (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #241) on Thursday, September 2, 2010 - 9:36 pm: |
Keep in mind that many tourist-based businesses on Bonaire rely on the "sure thing" during the busy seasons just to survive. Many businesses are small, so if a group cancels during the Christmas holidays for example, it can have a significant impact on their bottom line. Being an island, they have to order and stock up on supplies well in advance of their anticipated busy weeks.
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By Gail T.*********** (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #4849) on Thursday, September 2, 2010 - 10:23 pm: |
Well, I for one, prefer trip insurance that covers all circumstances. The year my husband had a heart stet installed, and we were't sure if he could dive yet, up until the trip. Another, his step-dad had an head injury which could go either way. And living in Florida during hurricane season....... who knows when the flight will be cancelled? I still stand a couple hunded for trip insurance to cover the daily life circumstances that can crop up.
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By Bob Smits (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #904) on Friday, September 3, 2010 - 4:14 am: |
I have a continuous travel, medical and cancellation Insurance for my whole family.
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By Trevor Naylor (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #225) on Friday, September 3, 2010 - 4:54 am: |
Hi Jack. You have focused on accommodation. How do you go on with the airlines. If you have discounted fare or on a charter flight I cannot see them refunding you. Certainly KLM will not.
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3215) on Friday, September 3, 2010 - 6:05 am: |
Jack..Well I do have a different perspective from you, but not necessarily because I am actively involved with tourism to Bonaire. I do have one question. If it's such a great business practice as you have indicated to offer full refunds on last minute cancellations, why aren't others doing it?
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By Menno (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #350) on Friday, September 3, 2010 - 7:54 am: |
What is the need for making a payment if upon cancellation the payment will be (or is expected to be) refunded again??
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By Jack Dempsey (BonaireTalker - Post #17) on Friday, September 3, 2010 - 8:25 am: |
Vince, small businesses in the USA and Canada offer full refunds and they are very competitive and I know from my friend in business that it is really working for him because his competition doesn't give refunds. Most businesses there allow you to return pricey items and get a full refund (most want the receipt, but some)--you don't need to have had a death in your immediate family.
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By Jack Dempsey (BonaireTalker - Post #18) on Friday, September 3, 2010 - 8:45 am: |
Hi Trevor,
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By Tropicana & BonaireFun Apartments (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Saturday, September 4, 2010 - 5:29 pm: |
Understanding both opinions, we at Tropicana & BonaireFun Apartments do have a refund policy and give private customers "full money back" in case of a legitimate reason.
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By Jack Dempsey (BonaireTalker - Post #19) on Sunday, September 5, 2010 - 7:42 am: |
Thanks Tropicana. I will stay with you next time! Perhaps you should promote your accomodation as "the only accomodation on Bonaire offering a full refund (for legitimate cancelations). It may give you the edge with some customers.
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By Ann Phelan - www.bonairecaribbean.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #4163) on Sunday, September 5, 2010 - 11:39 am: |
Travelguard will insure pre existing illnesses when purchasing a policy within 15 days of your first deposit. Protect Assist is the plan. Call Travelguard for questions.
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By Jack Dempsey (BonaireTalker - Post #21) on Monday, September 6, 2010 - 7:44 pm: |
Thanks Ann, I'll get a quote, along with a few other companies.
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By Nancy Klune (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #147) on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - 8:01 pm: |
Not posting what we were told but check with Bruce at Carib Inn.
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By David Johnson (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #570) on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 1:46 am: |
There is a huge difference between many hotels located in the USA and those on an island such as Bonaire.
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