By Susan Basso on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 7:44 pm: |
Okay I guess I’ve been putting this off long enough but I been pretending to still be there! We left Denver for an overnight stay in Miami on February 23. Almost had a heart attack when confirming from DIA our direct to Bonaire flight from Miami on ALM the next morning. She told me the flight had been changed and we would arrive Bonaire via Curacao about 9 p.m. After she realized I was very upset she put me on hold and came back and said everything was still the same; we would arrive Bonaire direct from Miami as previously scheduled! Whew! Well, WE DID!! We arrived in Bonaire on the 24th with no ALM problems.
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By nancy edison on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 12:49 pm: |
Susan - OK, you are the person I need to ask this question: We also fly from Denver to Miami (this Weds. 3/21!)and spend the night there before going on to Bonaire. I had thought to bring sliced meat for lunches in a cooler w/cold packs (no water leakage), but thought the overnight in Miami (plus the fact that we do have to fly to Bonaire via Curacao w/ a long layover), would rule out flying w/meat and having it keep. What did you do w/it in Miami and how did you get it to keep? I know we could get ice and probably have it keep overnight, but how to refresh our cold packs so that it lasts through the next day of long travel?
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By Andrew Howick on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 2:31 pm: |
Does anyone know what the limits are for bringing in fresh food and alcohol? A cooler full of frozen meats would go a long way as would a few bottles of wine.
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By Jake Richter - NetTech on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 4:05 pm: |
As much as you can carry, as long as it's only for personal consumption :-)
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By Kerri Freeman on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 4:09 pm: |
Nancy: You want the meats on Bonaire,not before? Whole large joints rather than slices will stay at temp. better I believe.Esp if thoroughly chilled.Frozen would be better. ie a whole frozen raw turkey takes about 1 hr per pound to thaw in a fridge.Not sure if cooked would be different. But its mass is I think, the important thing.
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By nancy edison on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 8:57 pm: |
I just wanted some lunch meats, but since they don't have much mass, they may not keep in the time it will take us to get down there, so we may go with some frozen mass instead - maybe steaks??
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By Jake Richter - NetTech on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 9:32 pm: |
Folks do that all the time too. Keep in mind when you overnight in Miami that you can restock the ice in your cooler too... (just make sure that every package you have in the cooler is water tight though :-)
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By Kerri Freeman on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 10:12 pm: |
I'm guessing that wherever you purchase the steaks can vac pac them for you too. A heavy vac pac stock should be pretty impervious to fluid transmission. Plus, maybe the hotel would agree to put your whole cooler inside one of their big walk-in freezers. Doesn't hurt to ask. Wish you good luck.
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By Glen Reem on Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 1:15 pm: |
Two other helps are to put any ice cubes/pieces in
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By michael gaynor on Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 2:24 pm: |
Hey! We have all the lunch meet, steaks, veggies and various foods available here. The prices may be a bit higher, but not enough to have to schlep all those extra cooler and take a chance on having them be delayed. Send me your list and I will check out the prices for you
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By De Etta on Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 3:57 pm: |
We find that the meat prices in Bonaire are very comparable to the States. Certain items are even cheaper, and in our opinion, much better. We tend to save our packing space for more speciality items that are not so readily available on the island. (ie., spices, sauces, mixes, munchies, etc.) Also, there's no problem with these items if luggage is delayed/lost a few days.
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By michael gaynor on Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 7:21 pm: |
example: 2 kilo bonless chicken brasts nafl 7.40 or around $4.00. New york strip steak (okay you have to buy the whole piece, but they slice it for you...nafl 22 per kilo...$12.00. Good All beef hotdogs, 8 pack nafl 6.00 around $3.75. Frozen one pound lobsters (from Canada) nafl 15 about 8 bucks. You have to know where to shop...just ask around and you can save the room for New York times papers, Bagels, and good lean pastrammi!
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By Glen Reem on Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 9:41 pm: |
As Michael said a while ago, he is willing to take and
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By nancy edison on Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 9:46 pm: |
Yes, save the room for other goodies. Yes, save the room for other goodies - my new mantra. Thanks everyone for great tips - again.
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By Kerri Freeman on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 3:24 am: |
Michael, get a grip. You have been away too long. Anyone who would ask for lean pastrami would have it on white bread with mayo,you should forgive the expression.....
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By michael gaynor on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 8:11 am: |
Hey...I forgot. A Loaf of good sour rye, a few half sours, some deli mustard... Glenn FYI we have smoke salmon for denmark (I know...almost lox) and I buy staning rib roasts all the time from consales. I do apologize for the tomato in the Clam chowder!
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By Glen Reem on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 12:07 pm: |
OK, so we are left w/o lox, lamb and red onions? Is the
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By Linda Richter - NetTech on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 12:12 pm: |
You buy it frozen.
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By Susan Basso on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 2:06 pm: |
We packed our ice chest in the morning before leaving Gunnison with "blue ice" in Ziplocks. They lasted until the following morning in Miami where we re-packed the Ziplocks with ice. We actually double Ziplocked the ice. We had no problem with leakage and the meat was still cold when we got to Bonaire. The first thing we unpacked was the ice chest. If you have room in the ice chest it also helps to insulate the inside with newspapers. It was really handy having our ice chest with us on the shore dives packed with water, cokes, beer, etc.
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By Barry Baker on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 2:24 pm: |
What about using "Dry Ice"?
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By Jan Klos on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 6:51 pm: |
Barry,
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By Susan Basso on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 7:49 pm: |
As far as I know you are not allowed to take dry ice on a commercial airliner.
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By Jan Klos on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 7:51 pm: |
Barry,
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By Barry Baker on Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 9:23 am: |
You mean Sherry.lol We can buy dry ice in our grocery stores here in Colorado and it is usually packed in brown wrapping paper so handling in not a problem. The trick with dry ice is to keep stuff cold but not frozen put the dry ice in the bottom of the cooler and your goods on top, or if you want to keep it frozen, put goods in bottom and dry ice on top. I can't say anything about carrying on an airliner but it would be interesting to check on.
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By Gail Currie on Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 1:03 pm: |
As I read through these messages I tend to agree -leave the food stuffs at home and pack other more important essentials. Then I think - hey our group is worried about their margarittas (I dont drink them - I do wine). Anyways we are planning on doing two things - first packing several bottles of good quality tequila (snobs that they are), and second taking a container of prepared margaritas. All this so the 3 others travelling have their margs when we stand on the edge of the water and toast to a great trip. (LOL) I just have to figure out if I take a bottle of wine with me so I have something until we can get to the liquor stores
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By John Gnann on Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 2:40 pm: |
re dry ice
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By Jan Klos on Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 7:43 pm: |
Ok it's Sherry--(sorry about that) I'll remember the Y-- All kidding aside-- I would rather buy my meats and groceries on Island. Even liquor-- with what one would save is it really worth to be shelping it around--( but than it depends on what part of the country you live in) In New England everything is high---Including the snow banks--------SURE WISH I WAS BACK ON BONAIRE!!!!!!!!!!
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By Lorraine Meadows on Wednesday, March 21, 2001 - 6:13 pm: |
We always bring a cooler with frozen favorites and pack everything solid. The airline always ask if I have dry ice in the cooler, I thought your not allowed to transport dry-ice in the baggage section on planes.
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