By Frances P. Zimmer (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 11:29 am: |
I've been to Bonaire 4 times and we always stay where we have a condo with kitchen. Since we fly from Miami I bring a cooler of frozen meals I prepare ahead of time. Some folks in my group this year are questioning transportation of meat into the country, saying they are concerned it is prohibited for some reason. Rather than risk throwing out a great deal of food at the airport does anyone know if this is true? Also, any restrictions known about using dry ice when flying? (we're on DCA leaving 9/4) Tks, Fran
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By Linda Richter - NetTech (Moderator - Post #1939) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 11:43 am: |
I found this item on dry ice on AA web site.
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By Dave Goodwin (BonaireTalker - Post #38) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 1:40 pm: |
Linda,
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By gregg brewer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #578) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 3:53 pm: |
we bring frozen food every trip...basically freeze it, wrap it in a soft cooler and pack in the suitcase...for a one day trip to bonaire, the stuff is usually still partially frozen when we arrive (no ice nor dry ice)we don't declare anything and have never been stopped...
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By Linda Richter - NetTech (Moderator - Post #1940) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 4:49 pm: |
TSA in Miami confiscated frozen meat from a US citizen/Bonaire resident coming down recently. It was not on island that it happened. He was not allowed to take it out of the country because his destination was the Netherlands Antilles. They told him he needed an import license. How well it is enforced and where is another issue.
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By gregg brewer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #579) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 5:37 pm: |
Linda,
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By Brian (bcj.) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #117) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 5:52 pm: |
Or it could just be that someone was following, or perhaps incorrectly following the rules. Either way, I don't see that a single incident means the TSA is beginning to encroach on other people's turf.
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #5024) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 6:04 pm: |
Well, they let me fly down with 14 live lobsters in my checked bag back in May.
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By Frances P. Zimmer (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #2) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 6:28 pm: |
I want to sincerely thank all of you for your opinion and comments. I think the issue really has to do with resale. So I'm going to just conduct business as usual and if they do stop me I guess I'll just play dumb. Worst case is I have to throw out our dinners and cook while I'm on vacation. Fran
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By Wally and Eva (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #485) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 6:56 pm: |
Jake...you carried LIVE lobsters to Bonaire...I nominate Jake for the Travelling Extrodinaire (sp) Award
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #11997) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 7:07 pm: |
Wally, I'm with you there...I'd like to know how he transported them live...Jake, do tell please (like you have the spare time to entertain us...;-))
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #5025) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 7:19 pm: |
Sam's Club for cheap, large insulated freezer bags
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By Kay Powers (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #842) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 11:47 pm: |
My 16 lb turduckens love it when I put them in my suitcase.....they are always ready for a trip to Bonaire.
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By Kelly Lott (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1642) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 2:24 pm: |
The look on Linda's face when Jake gets off the plane with a container full of lobster for her: Priceless.
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By Brian (bcj.) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #118) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 2:29 pm: |
Talk about TSA slackin' on their duties...How can 28 lobster pinchers be any less harmful than a set of nail clippers?
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #12010) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 2:49 pm: |
Jake, that's quite the Mother's Day present! You are a GOOD husband
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By Brian (bcj.) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #119) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 2:54 pm: |
See? That's what I'm talkin' about! Nail clippers can't move and act of their own free will!
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By Kelly Lott (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1643) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 3:24 pm: |
There was a woman at the Columbus airport ahead of me in line for security, and they took her Clinique eye liner sharpener. Looks like a small pencil sharpener. Then I realized AFTER I got to Las Vegas, that I had my damn tweezers in my purse ! Good lord !
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #12011) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 3:29 pm: |
Kelly, they took her eye liner sharpener? Now how is THAT a weapon? Oh, and it had to be expensive if it was Clinique...didn't they take you tweezers when you left Bon a year ago?
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By Brian (bcj.) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #120) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 3:31 pm: |
As long as humans are the ones trying to follow the rules and make decisions and judgement calls (i.e. security enforcement), the results will be inconsistent at best.
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #12012) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 3:53 pm: |
Brian, I actually thought the same thing..."gee, this is a nice Clinique eye liner sharpener, I need one of these, but already have a "new" pair of tweezers..."
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By Brian (bcj.) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #121) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 3:57 pm: |
What are you implying? ;)
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #12013) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 4:01 pm: |
Brian ;-)
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1848) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 4:11 pm: |
An added triCk to keep lobsters alive on the trip in Carry-on: wrap the lobsters in a damp ({not}) wet towel material from the time you first get them home. This keeps their gills moist so they Can breathe; a soaking wet towel may not pass enough oxygen and they will be asphyxiated as they would be in unaerated water. North AtlantiC lobsters are designed to spend time in air between tides: in Colonial times there were so many lobsters here that they were unCovered at low tide. I also have run tap water on their gills from time to time when they are in the refrigerator and after arrival. They will last several days with Care.
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By Brian (bcj.) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #122) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 4:20 pm: |
I may be one of the few to find humor in this, but...Glen: Is your Capital C stuCk?
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #12014) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 4:23 pm: |
Brian, thanks for the muCh needed laugh...I just thought of something else funny...a Clinique eye liner sharpener also Cannot get up and move around the plane like a live lobster Can...really giggling now...
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By Kelly Lott (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1644) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 4:32 pm: |
And if you have a rogue Maine lobster, with really bad eyeliner, who REALLY NEEDS to sharpen his eyeliner pencil --- well then you are in real trouble then ! lol
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1849) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 5:35 pm: |
Another note. Jake put the lobsters in airtight Containers. Asking for trouble, like a wet towel.
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1850) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 5:40 pm: |
I kknew that would get a rise here!!!
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1851) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 5:41 pm: |
'k' does seem to be stuk.
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By Cynde (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #12019) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 6:00 pm: |
Glen, you know it doesn't take muCh to entertain us! I'm not sure whih I perfer...hmmm...must ponder...
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By Wally and Eva (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #488) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 6:38 pm: |
I thinkk Jakke said he left the lids of the tupperware and put them in insulated freezer bags. And not a single C.
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1852) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 6:55 pm: |
OKKK, no lids. But sealed in bags. And not a single .
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By Jake Richter (Moderator - Post #5026) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 10:39 pm: |
But, I arrived on Bonaire at about 4pm (AA MIA-CUR, Divi Divi CUR->BON), and we dined on lobsters that night (around 7pm), so they didn't have long to suffer :-)
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3957) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 10:52 pm: |
Don't you just hate the squealing noise they make when you have to toss them into the boiling water, tho? Oh...the horror! But ohhhh soooo goood! Nice, job, Jake!! Drawn butter as a treat, too??? Carole
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3958) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 10:53 pm: |
"Ladies and Gentlemen....we must now ask that you lift your feet up off the floor of the aircraft".......CArole
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1853) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 9:24 am: |
My flights have always been on time too but with a high value Cargo (lobsters), I figure I will plan for the unexpeCted, i.e., a delayed flight, even an o'nite in SJ or MB. SeCond Corollary of Murphy's Law: the events you are prepared for don't happen. :–)
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By Cecil Berry (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3696) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 9:47 am: |
Lobsters loose on a plane, perish the thought. Everybody cover themselves with butter and lemon and for god's sake keep your feet up. If this bad boy got loose on the plane it could be as ugly as a group of Islamic terrorists.
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1854) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 12:13 pm: |
On the other hand, most jet planes have a miCrowave oven....
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By Louise Rozario (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 2:11 pm: |
OK, after lurking for several month off & on, now I have to speak up.
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1855) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 5:52 pm: |
Spinys and Corals are there though not running in Crowds. LoCals will have to address the market question; lobsters are not a Common market/store item or on menus, as I remember.
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3965) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 5:53 pm: |
Hi, Louise!! Welcome to BT and glad you decided to jump into the waters with us.
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3966) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 5:55 pm: |
Thought you were referring to Lo Cals, Glen! LOL!!! CArole (oops...my pinky goes nuts on my 'a' key a lot! )
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By Louise Rozario (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #2) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 6:04 pm: |
Well, here in the Keys they are very highly prized. My honey is a great catcher, so if they prove to be legal & available maybe I can talk him into giving lessons. We're headed your way in a couple of weeks - first trip & we're pretty excited.
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By John Stigaard (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #287) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 7:59 pm: |
Hi Louise,
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3971) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 11:55 pm: |
"Attack of the Killer Crustatians" (sp?)??? cb
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By Louise Rozario (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #3) on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 7:48 am: |
Thanks for the welcomes!
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By John Stigaard (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #289) on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 8:02 am: |
Louise,
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By Louise Rozario (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #4) on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 8:08 am: |
My honey is a long time charter boat captain - used to do fishing (of all kinds) now does dolphin watching. I often go along as the "educator" slash mate slash snorkeling instructor slash etc. etc.
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By Carole Baker (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3972) on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 12:06 pm: |
Wow, Louise! That is fantastic!! How exciting and fun for everyone. If Joe and I get down to the Keys we will definitely hook up with Dave and the dolphins! Again, welcome to BT and get ready to enjoy the waters of Bonaire...there are some pods who swim the shoreline but not many encounters with divers/snorkelers...some, but not many. Thanks again. CArole
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By Glen Reem (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1856) on Sunday, August 29, 2004 - 12:43 pm: |
'O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' I resolved to 'c' problem. Software conflict, as usual. Online help groups are great. :–)
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By gregg brewer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #583) on Sunday, August 29, 2004 - 1:08 pm: |
At one time Jake used to accept doughnuts; then gravitated toward bagels...sorry about your luck Jake..if I haul lobsters to Bon, I'm eating them...see ya in a couple of weeks (where do you live now)
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By Liz Ginocchio (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #303) on Sunday, August 29, 2004 - 3:26 pm: |
Gregg,
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By gregg brewer (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #585) on Sunday, August 29, 2004 - 4:34 pm: |
Liz,
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By Gregg Babcock (BonaireTalker - Post #31) on Monday, August 30, 2004 - 8:00 am: |
Gregg / Liz,
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